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    What pick would we give up to sign Kimbrel? Kimbrel would give us a potentially very good bullpen

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    Lol he is training his pose all ready!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Which is exactly the reason you keep getting sucked in - you just have to nitpick. When was the last time you won an argument with a 12 year old?
    My son is 2 1/2, so I assume I was probably around 12 myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Is he trying to squeeze out a fart in that right picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    I thought the Braves were no longer in Orlando? Doesn't the new ST stadium open this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    I thought the Braves were no longer in Orlando? Doesn't the new ST stadium open this year?
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    Have read many posts expressing opinions on how the Braves pitchers are going to improve, stagnate or regress. There have also been many posts quoting stats from the "pro" like Sickles and other sites. The variance is wide spread. I often wonder how much a PC effects a pitchers stats over a season.

    For the last 2 years, almost 100% of posters have expressed dismay with Chuckie Hernandez as PC. How much real effect did he have on our pitching staff? Was he a good instructor for taking throwers to low level pitchers? could he take low level pitchers to a higher level? Was he able to instill a mental attitude in the young guys to change them into pitchers like Scherzer, Smoltz, Maddux? Any of those could/should have improved over all stats.

    In most opinions Chuckie was a failure as a PC. I was dismayed when Sanchez wasn't retained. Several of our pitchers gave him credit for their improvement including Folty and JT. Now we have Rick Kranitz. Knowing very little about him, can he make the changes that Chuckie couldn't? Can he see and fix mechanical flaws and build confidence in "stuff" and impress the need to throw the best pitch possible in any situation.? If he can, then most projections for our throwers will be off the mark I would assume.

    So. does a PC really matter when stats are being discussed?

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    We bring up the increased revenue from the Battery a lot around here without taking into account its small sample size. Some of the businesses in there have already gone under during this offseason. Braves management may be playing it safe with their revenue assumptions until they have a longer track record of success.
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    I just saw a post on another board that claimed the loss of our draft pick was tied to how much we spend on a FA, for example if we sign Kimbrel to a 50 million or greater deal that affects which pick we lose. I’ve been under the impression that regardless of contract size we would lose our third highest pick for signing a FA with a qualifying offer. Does anyone have clarity on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    I just saw a post on another board that claimed the loss of our draft pick was tied to how much we spend on a FA, for example if we sign Kimbrel to a 50 million or greater deal that affects which pick we lose. I’ve been under the impression that regardless of contract size we would lose our third highest pick for signing a FA with a qualifying offer. Does anyone have clarity on this?
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...50289833721984

    We lose a pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravesfannchar View Post
    Thanks, that’s what I thought. Ben Chase is wrong again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    Have read many posts expressing opinions on how the Braves pitchers are going to improve, stagnate or regress. There have also been many posts quoting stats from the "pro" like Sickles and other sites. The variance is wide spread. I often wonder how much a PC effects a pitchers stats over a season.

    For the last 2 years, almost 100% of posters have expressed dismay with Chuckie Hernandez as PC. How much real effect did he have on our pitching staff? Was he a good instructor for taking throwers to low level pitchers? could he take low level pitchers to a higher level? Was he able to instill a mental attitude in the young guys to change them into pitchers like Scherzer, Smoltz, Maddux? Any of those could/should have improved over all stats.

    In most opinions Chuckie was a failure as a PC. I was dismayed when Sanchez wasn't retained. Several of our pitchers gave him credit for their improvement including Folty and JT. Now we have Rick Kranitz. Knowing very little about him, can he make the changes that Chuckie couldn't? Can he see and fix mechanical flaws and build confidence in "stuff" and impress the need to throw the best pitch possible in any situation.? If he can, then most projections for our throwers will be off the mark I would assume.

    So. does a PC really matter when stats are being discussed?
    I doubt the pitching coach is particularly relevant to
    Outcomes in 90% of the cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    You can't argue for 'value signings' because they passed on paying Brantley $32 million and instead paid Markakis $4 million?
    4 million. 16 million. All the same really.

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    I'm not interested in giving up a draft pick and the pool money that comes with it to sign an aging reliever whose walks went up, Ks went down and velocity went down.

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    Gohara down 35 pounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Gohara down 35 pounds?

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    Ready to see how it affects his velocity.

    Do we have his actual weight now?

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    I think it's only a matter of time before baseball does away with the loss of a draft pick for signing free agents. Players hate it and you can still compensate small market teams by giving them comp round picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I think it's only a matter of time before baseball does away with the loss of a draft pick for signing free agents. Players hate it and you can still compensate small market teams by giving them comp round picks.
    They keep revising it in each CBA but I do have to think it goes away in the next one after these last two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Steamer projection for Markakis in 2019 - 0.9 WAR (137 games). I'd have been perfectly happy with...

    Marwin Gonzalez - 1.6 WAR (133 games) - sure he'd cost slightly more, but AA has "plenty of money", right?
    Lonnie Chisenhall - 0.4 WAR (60 games)
    Curtis Granderson - 0.6 WAR (99 games)
    Matt Joyce - (no projections yet)
    Derek Dietrich - (no projections yet)
    Denard Span - 0.5 WAR (65 games)

    Any of those guys would have been more receptive to being platooned, making it easier to get ABs for Camargo and Riley in the OF.

    We've been down the Markakis-brick road. We know exactly what he is. We also know he's not going to be happy if he's asked to be a part-time player, and is liable to cause problems when that happens - even without screaming about it to the media. Snitker and the other clubhouse leaders love him so much that the situation can be uncomfortable without Nick ever opening his mouth.
    Just like he would start pouting and let it affect his performance if we got rid of his brother-in-law right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdcox View Post
    Remember ... the Braves didn't just have to match the $32 million. They had to overcome the fact that Texas has no state income tax and the face that the player apparently preferred the Astros. would have been willing to go to, say, $40mm? $45?

    Maybe, but it would require some thought, yeah?
    We never seem to find out what the "clincher" was in most free-agent signings, but the income tax angle could certainly have played a part.

    That said, the fact that AA was supposedly in on Brantley but didn't pull the trigger simply brings into question how forthcoming the brass has been with the fanbase even further. You could almost even "justify" spending the extravagant difference to the numbers crowd. While the numbers will likely be adjusted following this winter, using the previously accepted $8 million/WAR places Brantley at exactly $10.4 million more valuable than Nick according to their Steamer projections (2.2 WAR to 0.9 WAR). Another healthy season for Brantley this year probably further widens their value gap in the second year of their deals.

    If there's "plenty of money" in the couch cushions of the offices at SunTrust, wouldn't it have made perfect sense to make up the income tax difference if Brantley would've chosen us?
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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