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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    well, i'm sold

    we should continue the bad policy of the embargo
    I wasn't saying I liked the embargo at all.

    I'm saying how awful the Philippines has been since they cut ties with the US.

    If Cuba starts a new relationship with the US or vice versa, they will be much better off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'm saying cutting off trade with countries is isolationism.
    But you are wrong. That's what I'm saying. The Cuba embargo is in no way designed to protect the US economy, ergo it isn't an example of isolationist economic policy.

    The US's role in actively suppressing the economy of a separate sovereign nation is almost the complete opposite of isolationist foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Would South Beach lose a lot of business if Cuba was free to go to?
    No. Some caribbean islands would lost a lot of business I assume, but south beach is a destination. Thats like saying would Texas lose business if Mexico was raising catle or whatever people do in texas that isn't oil or government contracting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    But you are wrong. That's what I'm saying. The Cuba embargo is in no way designed to protect the US economy, ergo it isn't an example of isolationist economic policy.

    The US's role in actively suppressing the economy of a separate sovereign nation is almost the complete opposite of isolationist foreign policy.
    I like to argue with you, but you're right. Sturg bow out of this one, US involvement in Cuba is essentially military in it's intent of overthrowing a government through discord.
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    Huge step today.

    Obama announced trade of prisoners. Also announced an opening of an embassy in Havana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    Huge step today.

    Obama announced trade of prisoners. Also announced an opening of an embassy in Havana.
    So can the Braves tap the talent without the dodging or seeing Yunel Escobar/Ysel Puig go to great lengths of coming over on boats/rafts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    Huge step today.

    Obama announced trade of prisoners. Also announced an opening of an embassy in Havana.
    This is a good thing. I'm all for it.

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    great news



    i never really knew Rubio was that dumb until his press conference he just gave
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    Also allows financial institutions to invest.

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    My hometown is a sister city to Havana. Kind of interested to see how this pans out from that standpoint.
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    And close GITMO ???

    Why is Congressional approval necesary? I don't think Congressional approval was used or required to set this whole mess in motion.
    I could be way wrong about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    Huge step today.

    Obama announced trade of prisoners. Also announced an opening of an embassy in Havana.

    Bravo POTUS! Now let's get an MLB franchise in Havana.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Bravo POTUS! Now let's get an MLB franchise in Havana.


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    @Kasparov63: If you think the US embargo is to blame for Cuba's economy you never visited any Communist country. Giving thugs more to steal doesn't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    @Kasparov63: If you think the US embargo is to blame for Cuba's economy you never visited any Communist country. Giving thugs more to steal doesn't help.
    been to a handful of them

    not sure what that has to do with the dumb policy towards Cuba though

    i mean, i would get it if we don't have any ties or relations to communist countries but we do
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    I find it odd that basically all of the criticism is directed at what this is, or isn't, going to do for the Cuban people. What about the American people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    I find it odd that basically all of the criticism is directed at what this is, or isn't, going to do for the Cuban people. What about the American people?
    hopefully we can finally stop prosecuting Americans for visiting

    it's insane it is the only place in the world where i can be fined 10k to visit (i know the embargo, it is actually spend money there but it is pretty hard to visit a place and not spend money)
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    “Cuba and the USA


    .. one is a rogue state with a corrupt political system that exports terrorism worldwide, that kidnaps, tortures, and assassinates without remorse, and imprisons more of its own people than any other nation on earth .. and the other is Cuba.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    “Cuba and the USA


    .. one is a rogue state with a corrupt political system that exports terrorism worldwide, that kidnaps, tortures, and assassinates without remorse, and imprisons more of its own people than any other nation on earth .. and the other is Cuba.”


    57, go down to Cuba and start criticizing their government and say the same crap you said about Bush about Castro and get back to me about how America is so evil.


    ****ing hilarious if you dont think Cuba does that **** to thier own people

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