The Trump Presidency

[thethe]

And for every story you share about MS-13 I can share one of Joe Middle Class coming home from work and shooting his wife.

A life lost in Haiti is no different than a life lost in the US. Somethings transcend arbitrary human defined borders - human life is one of those.

If a Haitian dies during a hurricane in a foreign country, does he make a sound?

Isn't that the point? We have crime. We have poverty. Why import more? And yes there are plenty that come in that make a great life for themselves but that doesn't diminsh the fact that we are importing a poor serf criminal class that is further destabilizing the country.

Lets send aid to these countries to help them rebuild. As long as HRC isn't there robbing the relief funds we can rebuild these nations and stabilize them.

[Julio3000]

These outlier stories are great but for every one of these I can post something about MS-13 gutting people on Long Island.

How about American involvement in the Salvadoran Civil War, which directly contributed to that country's problems? Or a century-and-a-half of ****ing up Haiti?

We're part of the world. Opting out of that is neither realistic nor noble.

[Julio3000]

Isn't that the point? We have crime. We have poverty. Why import more? And yes there are plenty that come in that make a great life for themselves but that doesn't diminsh the fact that we are importing a poor serf criminal class that is further destabilizing the country.

Lets send aid to these countries to help them rebuild. As long as HRC isn't there robbing the relief funds we can rebuild these nations and stabilize them.

You're beginning with a flawed premise.

[thethe]

How about American involvement in the Salvadoran Civil War, which directly contributed to that country's problems? Or a century-and-a-half of ****ing up Haiti?

We're part of the world. Opting out of that is neither realistic nor noble.

And I've said I'm more than willing to help these nations rebuild which is what America has always done. Its a foolish endeavor to just open our doors to import a poor class of people.

[thethe]

You're beginning with a flawed premise.

Please elaborate.

[Jaw]

Becuase closing your eyes and letting people into America from nations that have terrible murder/crime rates and poverty levels is a stupid decision. That is what Trump is saying. However, if we instituted a merit based system then all people of the world are on the same footing. If you have skills and the ability to support your self then come right in.

If I were Trump, and were trying to say what I assume he was trying to say, it would have been something like

America has been called a great melting pot. Diversity has always been one of our greatest strengths, and that diversity has come from all over the world. Unfortunately, the melting pot analogy is no longer accurate. We resemble something more akin to a salad, with fewer pieces blending, fewer cultures assimilating. Since no one nationality or race of people is superior to any other, it can only be the American culture that sets us apart. Unfortunately, we live in a time where many people think everyone is a winner, no one should be held responsible for their own mistakes, and it's considered blasphemous to disagree with the current groupthink. Our culture is in free fall into an unaccountable, Godless, neo-Fascist void. Until we can stop our own current swirling progress toward the bottom of the toilet bowl, I think it best that we minimize immigration from other countries that currently have even more challenging cultural issues. If you don't like it, go cry on a blog or burn down your neighborhood, or make up some silly chant to sing on a street corner, or whatever else it is you do to show the world that you're an adult and your feelings are hurt.

That way he wouldn't have offended so many people by using bad words.

[thethe]

If I were Trump, and were trying to say what I assume he was trying to say, it would have been something like

America has been called a great melting pot. Diversity has always been one of our greatest strengths, and that diversity has come from all over the world. Unfortunately, the melting pot analogy is no longer accurate. We resemble something more akin to a salad, with fewer pieces blending, fewer cultures assimilating. Since no one nationality or race of people is superior to any other, it can only be the American culture that sets us apart. Unfortunately, we live in a time where many people think everyone is a winner, no one should be held responsible for their own mistakes, and it's considered blasphemous to disagree with the current groupthink. Our culture is in free fall into an unaccountable, Godless, neo-Fascist void. Until we can stop our own current swirling progress toward the bottom of the toilet bowl, I think it best that we minimize immigration from other countries that currently have even more challenging cultural issues. If you don't like it, go cry on a blog or burn down your neighborhood, or make up some silly chant to sing on a street corner, or whatever else it is you do to show the world that you're an adult and your feelings are hurt.

That way he wouldn't have offended so many people by using bad words.

Yes - This would have satisfied the sanctimonious segments of the population. Trump ran on immigration. He won on immigration. Now there is an uproar that he is keeping his promises? Whatever...

[goldfly]

I mean...do you support people from **** hole countries like Kenya?

i enjoyed my time in Kenya


i don't know why you replied with that to that post though

[Julio3000]

I assume it was a reference to our first Kenyan-born President.

[goldfly]

only 2 people could think what i said mean if they voted for hillary

it would stop a hurricane from forming

and they both post here

[nsacpi]

You're beginning with a flawed premise.

Yeah. Some people seem to view a society or economy as a lake with a fixed amount of food etc for everyone. In reality it is more like a river with various tributaries flowing into it, each contributing to the overall richness of the system.

[thethe]

Yeah. Some people seem to view a society or economy as a lake with a fixed amount of food etc for everyone. In reality is is more like a river with various tributaries flowing into it, each contributing to the overall richness of the system.

Or taking from the river in excess of what they contribute.

[goldfly]

I assume it was a reference to our first Kenyan-born President.

ah

[goldfly]

Or taking from the river in excess of what they contribute.

red states do this

they don't come close to contributing to what they take

should blue states cut off their taxes until they get some better states to join the union?

[thethe]

red states do this

they don't come close to contributing to what they take

should blue states cut off their taxes until they get some better states to join the union?

I don't care where you are from or what you look like unless you are disabled/elderly or other misc unfortunate life situations you should not be taking more than you contribute.

[Julio3000]

I don't care where you are from or what you look like unless you are disabled/elderly or other misc unfortunate life situations you should not be taking more than you contribute.

Can you make a comprehensive case that immigrants, as a whole, take more than they contribute?

[Hawk]

Why is ****hole censored on this board yet plastered all over my TV?

[thethe]

Can you make a comprehensive case that immigrants, as a whole, take more than they contribute?

That type of analysis would require extensive data that is not available to us so the answer is obviously no and it is why you asked.

However, a large percentage of those that would contribute more than they take would still be allowed into this country in my world.

[Hawk]

Hey, look

Another lie

The move was made by George Bush and was for security reasons.

But hey, blame the black man some more

Your base loves that

The decision was made by Bush, the move was made by Obama.

Irrespective of that claptrap, who spends 1.2 billion dollars on a ****ing embassy?

FYI - Daily Mail broke the Trump cancels trip to London story. Something something good sources.

[Jaw]

red states do this

they don't come close to contributing to what they take

should blue states cut off their taxes until they get some better states to join the union?

The solution is obvious