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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    It's a 5-7 seed, big freaking deal.
    Not when Dirk Jr and DWade Jr hit the floor with them. TOP SEED IN THE EAST BITCH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    It's a 5-7 seed, big freaking deal.
    Its a hell of a lot better than what they had and they also add a talented big in the draft and a potential point guard in Grant.

    Monroe is a perfect fit for the triangle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Not when Dirk Jr and DWade Jr hit the floor with them. TOP SEED IN THE EAST BITCH
    Yeah i agree, LeBron should retire imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Its a hell of a lot better than what they had and they also add a talented big in the draft and a potential point guard in Grant.

    Monroe is a perfect fit for the triangle.
    Better than what they add isnt really saying much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Better than what they add isnt really saying much.
    So it's only worth signing people if it makes you a champion? Solid theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    So it's only worth signing people if it makes you a champion? Solid theory
    No, they have no choice but to sign people.

    Especially with no 1st next year, and Melo almost out of his prime.

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    Since OKC doesn't have many options I'm curious to hear [MENTION=1778]chop2chip[/MENTION] [MENTION=99]gilesfan[/MENTION] [MENTION=61]BRule[/MENTION] roadmap for your teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Since OKC doesn't have many options I'm curious to hear [MENTION=1778]chop2chip[/MENTION] [MENTION=99]gilesfan[/MENTION] [MENTION=61]BRule[/MENTION] roadmap for your teams.
    Sign Monroe and Wes and fill in the bench with Kostas and another wing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Sign Monroe and Wes and fill in the bench with Kostas and another wing.
    What numbers are you going to sign those guys.

    I love Koufas for the Knicks and have said that numerous times. I think he is goingto be a MUCH better value than DAJ. Jordan without Paul is going to look like a really bad deal.
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    Sign Cappri
    Trade Nene for OJ Mayo
    Sign Rodriguez or Brooks

    Wall/Backup PG
    Beal/Mayo
    Porter/Oubre
    Casspri/Humphries
    Gortat/Seraphin/Blair
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Sign Cappri
    Trade Nene for OJ Mayo
    Sign Rodriguez or Brooks

    Wall/Backup PG
    Beal/Mayo
    Porter/Oubre
    Casspri/Humphries
    Gortat/Seraphin/Blair
    I see you are buying into the space and pace concept now.

    I like that idea but I think you are going to have a lot of trouble trading Nene for anyone personally. I think Alan Anderson would be a nice option for your bench personally. Gives you a tough defender who can knock down some threes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I see you are buying into the space and pace concept now.

    I like that idea but I think you are going to have a lot of trouble trading Nene for anyone personally. I think Alan Anderson would be a nice option for your bench personally. Gives you a tough defender who can knock down some threes.
    Cappri is underrated. I don't really care about the "space and pace." Its just another option at the teams disposal at times. Obviously defense would be punished with Casspri at the 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What numbers are you going to sign those guys.

    I love Koufas for the Knicks and have said that numerous times. I think he is goingto be a MUCH better value than DAJ. Jordan without Paul is going to look like a really bad deal.
    Rumor is Mornoe will get anywhere from 12-15 per and Wes wants 15 but everyone seems to think he will have to settle for 10-11 with the injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Rumor is Mornoe will get anywhere from 12-15 per and Wes wants 15 but everyone seems to think he will have to settle for 10-11 with the injury.
    I think the key for some teams and the Knicks are positioned well for this is to sign long term deals this offseason before the cap skyrockets. Even Matthews at 15 could look like a good deal in 2 years. I think Monroe will get close to max. Very talented offensive player who I still thinkhas room to grow defensively. Problem is I don't think you can play Monroe/Melo/Porzingis in the same lineup.

    If I were the Knicks I would sign Koufos/Matthews or Danny Green. I just don't think Monroe works long term with Porzingis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Cappri is underrated. I don't really care about the "space and pace." Its just another option at the teams disposal at times. Obviously defense would be punished with Casspri at the 4.
    I like Casspi as an option off the bench. Gortat isn't really imposing but still a decent defensive option so I think you need to find a way to get some additional interior defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I think the key for some teams and the Knicks are positioned well for this is to sign long term deals this offseason before the cap skyrockets. Even Matthews at 15 could look like a good deal in 2 years. I think Monroe will get close to max. Very talented offensive player who I still thinkhas room to grow defensively. Problem is I don't think you can play Monroe/Melo/Porzingis in the same lineup.

    If I were the Knicks I would sign Koufos/Matthews or Danny Green. I just don't think Monroe works long term with Porzingis.
    Depends on what Kris turns into......if he's Dirk, then no....if he's some sort of hybrid that can protect the rim and stretch the floor (What people think Towns can be) then I don't see an issue. Obviously their games are flipped as Towns is the rim protector now and needs to improve his O and Kris has the shot but needs to add muscle and learn to play inside better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    WOJ BOMB:

    Kings probing John Calipari about coaching, front-office jobs
    Kings are a disaster. They are doing whatever it takes now to keep Cousins happy.

    Hiring Karl was such a stupid move but they had to save face for firing Malone.

    You can have the best GM and the best coach but if your ownership sucks you are going to be a ****ty franchise. That more than anything has kept the KNicks down for so long.
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    Cal hated coaching Cousins, so I'm assuming this is nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Since OKC doesn't have many options I'm curious to hear [MENTION=1778]chop2chip[/MENTION] [MENTION=99]gilesfan[/MENTION] [MENTION=61]BRule[/MENTION] roadmap for your teams.
    Trade our first rounder to OKC for Waiters... Okay that was my last troll concerning that until the season. Also, I think OKC has done a great job this offseason. You likely upgraded your coaching staff and selected the best player you could have asked for at 14.

    As for the Jazz, obviously we aren't going to sign any premier free agents any time soon. The one that we have an okay shot of landing, Paul Millsap, is also the one we shouldn't be signing. If he would sign, Danny Green would be a really nice fit, but I still think we are going to have to keep our books clean as much as possible to make sure we can resign Gobert, Hayward (player option after year 3), etc.

    The Jazz's biggest weakness is at the point guard position, but it's also their position with the highest upside. You don't draft Exum knowing that he's going to be a three year project just to replace him with somebody like Patrick Beverly. The fact that he's such a fantastic defensive point guard allows you to keep him on the floor and still be competitive. I believe the Jazz were 27-13 with him as the starting point guard. Trey Burke likely isn't going to amount to anything, but if we can't sign/trade for an obvious upgrade who can split time with Exum ala Jrue Holliday, George Hill, etc. then we are probably better off just keeping Burke for another year.

    Our biggest upgrade this year will be getting Alec Burks back. His raw numbers don't suggest a player that is very efficient, but he's 44% catch and shoot from 3 and is extremely good at getting to the line. Essentially he's the perfect 6th man and the Jazz need someone like him for when Hayward is on the bench. I'm also a huge Rodney Hood fan. In his limited time (due to injuries) he had one of the highest PPP running the pick and roll. He also can and should develop into more of a consistent three point threat which makes him a sensible starting option at the two guard. The Jazz have three ball handlers on the wings and that's important to mitigate the pressure on Exum. The Jazz do need to add a shooter somewhere though, which is why Danny Green or Holliday would make a lot of sense.

    Our front court is one of the best in the NBA. Even with the spacing issues, the Jazz still had an average offensive efficiency post the Kanter trade. If and when we make the playoffs that may become an issue, but for now I think the plan is to embrace the defensive identity. The Jazz should be a heavy favorite to be the best defensive team in the league this year, alongside Golden State.

    My homer pick: I think the Jazz and Wolves have the best young cores in the league.
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