cajunrevenge (12-08-2016), chop2chip (12-08-2016), Hudson2 (12-08-2016), mfree80 (12-08-2016)
Kimbrel trade was fine.
Cameron Maybin - (traded for Krol) (was upgrade in center while he was around)
Wisler (#34 BA, Kiley McDaniel #41, )
Paroubeck (traded for int'l draft spots)
Draft Pick #41
Braves shed 45 million of Melvin Upton.
Kimbrell was due 46 million over four years, hell of a luxury on a 65 win team.
Used the money for a number of things, including draft and international signings.
That was a lot of stuff for a closer. Sox gave a nice package for Kimbrell as well, but #26 as opposed to #34/#41 and they didn't shed 45 million dollars of dead weight.
Yes, the Braves could have had a 16 million dollar 4th OF. I'm sure they are kicking themselves given he was awful in Atlanta and there is little reason to think he would have been better given more time.
Pads liked him so much they ate his contract to get rid of him.
I swear for someone who acts like the smartest guy in the room 24/7 you say some dumb ****.
At the time of the deal, Kimbrel was worth about $26 million in surplus value. That's about what Wisler was worth as well.
So...how was it such a bad deal?
The point you so clearly missed is that the Braves could have eaten BJs contract themselves, and likely had a useful 4th OFer. Instead, they grouped him with Kimberly, and got a return much less valuable than had they traded Kimbrel for Margot themselves.
Sorry, I didn't think the logic was so hard to follow. And BJ as a 4th OFer was only slightly serious.
And you know San Diego was offering that package to us? In fact, that GM wasn't even there yet. To use your own logic, finding one dumb GM doesn't mean anything other than you got lucky. Sorry that logic is so hard for you to follow.
Look, you use surplus value to evaluate every trade. But this time, not only do you ignore it, you call a good deal according to surplus value 'screwing the pooch' and hurting the rebuild.
Hey, good one.
Last edited by smootness; 12-08-2016 at 08:11 PM.
GovClintonTyree (12-08-2016), Southcack77 (12-08-2016)
Fowler to the Cards, looks like around 5 years, 80-90 million.
Ventura's Stolen Bases
Wisler was the No. 36 prospect in the game. He hasn't worked out so far. That doesn't mean he was bad value at the time. And we also got the pick that turned into Riley (who could easily be a top 100 prospect this time next year if he keeps progressing). Also got a solid year out of Maybin and then flipped him for a useful reliever.