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    Interesting article about the rebuild and how Coppy botched it


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    That's a pretty limited viewpoint and not a very holistic view of the rebuild. Did the Johns botch the rebuild? Certainly. Was it completely botched? No. Was it because they traded the players traded? No. It was what they got in return for the players traded, which is at least some of the point of the blog, I guess. But it seems the point really was that the players traded shouldn't have been traded at all. I strongly disagree with that.

    Due to the rules of professional baseball, being semi-terrible is worse for you long term than being completely terrible, if you truly want to rebuild.

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    by jeff wren
    "Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly

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    Where to even begin with that blog post?

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    upton and heyward needed to be dealt and the returns were fine. obviously the wood/peraza is/was always brutal.

    and oh my god part of their argument is about how some of players went on to have success with other teams. dumb as hell.
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    Thanks for the link. Seems more like a whiny post someone would make here than a publishable article. For sure plenty of stupid moves were made and we basically lucked into the core we have. But then he takes it further and seems to relate the rebuild mistakes and our future mediocrity on cheap ownership. Comparing WAR without relating salary is also very weak. "Wren was great at drafting bullpen talent"...lol.

    It would be more valid to blame the trade mistakes on Hector Olivera than ownership, etc. John Gant would look good in our bullpen, but that stuff happens. Tommy LaStella vs Albies is a wash. Simmons vs Swanson is a wash. Paying Kimbrell to close for a team in rebuild would have been a waste.

    We got lucky (maybe it was payback for getting shafted by Hector Olivera). I'm very happy with where the Braves are and I recently sort of trust that ownership will let us spend if they see a need. All I know is is much better being a post 90s Braves fan than it was back in the 70s and 80s.

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    If you’re going to plug your own work you better have thick skin, because that was a terribly written article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeman View Post
    Thanks for the link. Seems more like a whiny post someone would make here than a publishable article. For sure plenty of stupid moves were made and we basically lucked into the core we have. But then he takes it further and seems to relate the rebuild mistakes and our future mediocrity on cheap ownership. Comparing WAR without relating salary is also very weak. "Wren was great at drafting bullpen talent"...lol.

    It would be more valid to blame the trade mistakes on Hector Olivera than ownership, etc. John Gant would look good in our bullpen, but that stuff happens. Tommy LaStella vs Albies is a wash. Simmons vs Swanson is a wash. Paying Kimbrell to close for a team in rebuild would have been a waste.

    We got lucky (maybe it was payback for getting shafted by Hector Olivera). I'm very happy with where the Braves are and I recently sort of trust that ownership will let us spend if they see a need. All I know is is much better being a post 90s Braves fan than it was back in the 70s and 80s.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    If you’re going to plug your own work you better have thick skin, because that was a terribly written article.
    Don’t worry it’s not mine. Just something I stumbled across on mlbtaderumors.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    If you’re going to plug your own work you better have thick skin, because that was a terribly written article.
    ouch! But so true...

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    i regret giving that blog the traffic it doesn’t deserve.
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    I got to a part where the article started discussing La Stella earnestly as something other than the fluke he is and stopped.

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    pretty good column for a middle schooler.

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    I waited to read replies for clicking. No way that had any logical reasoning. Coppy made a lot of mistakes. But he didn’t botch it.
    Coppy

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    Um yeah, that was not a good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    by jeff wren
    I was thinking it was Kyle Wren, who has time on his hands after being released by the Reds last month.

    Seriously, you can run through just about every franchise and play the same game when it comes to player trades. I think the big mistake made by Coppolella (besides the international shenanigans) was moves made to look competitive (taking Aybar back in the Simmons deal, trading for Jaime Garcia, etc.) instead of riding things out.

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