6/25 GDT: Milwaukee Brewers (40-37) vs. Atlanta Braves (36-38)

[thewupk]

In a non-competitive season where team w/l is largely irrelevant, it's individual player results that are consequential and worth watching. The bottoming-out of Teheran this year has been the most significant and alarming development of 2017.

Especially since he was supposed to be a pivotal piece in the next contending team for the Braves. Really a shame.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

Maybe he is trying to get fired. Has sounded upset at Chip a few times.

While I hope he is, I kinda doubt it. He'd have to say something pretty insensitive to actually get fired. Maybe he just lost a ton of money on the stock market or got a bad diagnosis or something.

[msstate7]

Julio was really bad today.

Previous 3 starts...
20.1 ip 6 er 2.69 era

Previous 6 starts...
37.1 ip 17 er (7 in 1 start) 3.88 era

Hopefully this was just another bad start and he rebounds vs A's

[thewupk]

Chip it took me 30 seconds to see the are more runs being scored in 2017 than in 2016. And yes it is due to homeruns. That is something most people have known about for well over a year now. And the most common theory is statcast data showing teams/players the optimal swing for homeruns. The most common conspiracy theory is juiced baseballs.

[jpx7]

Maybe he is trying to get fired. Has sounded upset at Chip a few times.

Chip could give him a few pointers on how to get fired from a team for whom you've long broadcast.

[thewupk]

Also in case anybody was wondering. 2016 almost topped 2000 as the biggest homerun year ever. There were 1.17 HR/9 in 2016 and 1.18 HR/9 in 2000. In 2017 so far there has been 1.28 HR/9. Steroid level offense is back.

[msstate7]

Chip it took me 30 seconds to see the are more runs being scored in 2017 than in 2016. And yes it is due to homeruns. That is something most people have known about for well over a year now. And the most common theory is statcast data showing teams/players the optimal swing for homeruns. The most common conspiracy theory is juiced baseballs.

At one point this season, there were more HRs than in MLB history. I can see questioning the balls

[thewupk]

At one point this season, there were more HRs than in MLB history. I can see questioning the balls

That's been my theory. Supposedly they have been tested but who really knows.

[msstate7]

That's been my theory. Supposedly they have been tested but who really knows.

HRs sell tickets, so I could see MLB wanting juiced balls. I have no idea though

[thewupk]

HRs sell tickets, so I could see MLB wanting juiced balls. I have no idea though

Indeed. I mean the homerun chase with Sosa and Big Mac essentially brought MLB back from the 94 strike. That being said MLB has been booming for years now so there hasn't been a need to try and artificially boost attendance.

I do think statcast data is a big reason for it. Teams/players are learning which is always a good thing. Too bad Joe/Chip are clueless about it.

[Enscheff]

Julio's fastball on average has been only 0.2 mph slower than last year. Yeah it's been declining for a few years but to me the real difference is his lack of command this year. This is an example of what mediocre stuff with bad command gets you. SunTrust is doing him no favors either.

Correct as usual. His stuff has been declining for years, which is why everyone with a clue was screaming to trade him during the rebuild. The Braves wasted Teheran's most valuable seasons during lost rebuilding years. A complete failure by the FO. We just watched the ChiSox make a similar mistake with Quintana, holding out for more and then seeing Q pitch poorly. Hopefully rebuilding teams have taken note.

We are witnessing first hand what happens when a guy's stuff declines past the point where average control is no longer good enough. Living in the low 90s only works with superb control.

We are also seeing why long term contracts for pitchers are almost never a good idea. Teheran would currently be in his 2nd Arb season, and the Braves would have the option of non-tendering him. Now, they are paying him for years no matter what.

[WaitingFor2017]

Hell, let Jackson finish this thing.

[thewupk]

And since I'm expected to make a negative post since I only want to be right.

If this score holds the Braves will have scored 2.6 runs per game against a team with a winning record. Stats stabilizing.

[NinersSBChamps]

And since I'm expected to make a negative post since I only want to be right.

If this score holds the Braves will have scored 2.6 runs per game against a team with a winning record. Stats stabilizing.

I like you.

[msstate7]

I like you.

This ought to tell you something, thewupk. Nice you two joined us today again...

[Deester11]

That would solve the problem of what to do with Bartolo's fat ass over the next week. He can take Julio's spot for 2 starts. Should be similar results.

Pretty dumb

[thewupk]

This ought to tell you something, thewupk. Nice you two joined us today again...

Anytime I can educate the masses with facts is a good day.

[WaitingFor2017]

I consistently see Braves fans over on another board talking Wild Card or topping Washington, and then I get called out for being negative just because I have noticed that the Braves' strength of schedule absolutely stinks right now. I think this loss will put them at 8-9 vs. teams with winning records currently. 17 games out of 75 against teams with winning records? That tells me everything I need to know about the strength of schedule.

These same fans want to keep Matt Adams even though he has no future with this team. If he is here next year and does extremely well, then good for him. He would then leave in 2019 with a richer contract with a new team while being on an 80-win team in Atlanta in 2018.

[Garmel]

Camargo with two walks today. Surprising since he hasn't shown much patience.

[Managuarantano's Volunteers]

I consistently see Braves fans over on another board talking Wild Card or topping Washington, and then I get called out for being negative just because I have noticed that the Braves' strength of schedule absolutely stinks right now. I think this loss will put them at 8-9 vs. teams with winning records currently. 17 games out of 75 against teams with winning records? That tells me everything I need to know about the strength of schedule.

These same fans want to keep Matt Adams even though he has no future with this team. If he is here next year and does extremely well, then good for him. He would then leave in 2019 with a richer contract with a new team while being on an 80-win team in Atlanta in 2018.

On the plus side, that's close to .500 against good teams. Maybe we can get to 75 wins still.