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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugfan View Post
    So would I but you need some power in the lineup. A lineup of Swanson, Mallex, Acuna, Albies, And Inciarte is pretty weak with power
    you could complement that ground with power at third, first and catcher and have a successful lineup
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    And I would rather build a team around young position players than young pitchers. Your likely best case scenario if everything comes together is what the Mets had for a year or two.
    Or you turn it like the early 2000 A's or the Giants during their recent heyday, or the Cards...

    Now obviously those teams had more than just dominant pitching, as each team had at least 1 MVP winner on their team. But they did have dominant pitching that was pretty much entirely home grown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Or you turn it like the early 2000 A's or the Giants during their recent heyday, or the Cards...

    Now obviously those teams had more than just dominant pitching, as each team had at least 1 MVP winner on their team. But they did have dominant pitching that was pretty much entirely home grown.
    You could. Which is more likely though? That's kind of the point. What is the best (most probable) way to build a good team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    You could. Which is more likely though? That's kind of the point. What is the best (most probable) way to build a good team?
    I don't know that it's all that likely we would look like the Cubs 2-3 years ago either, even if we had focused on position players.

    It has been said that pitching is easier to acquire and hitting is worth substantially more. But the last couple of off-seasons don't align with that opinion. The highest contracts have been going to the pitchers and the asking for front line starting pitching has been astronomical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    you could complement that ground with power at third, first and catcher and have a successful lineup
    It's hard to find a good power hitting catcher and 3rd base? 3rd base has been a joke since Chipper retired. The cheap Braves would have to spend money on a decent free agent for once. Or trade away a bunch of our good pitching prospects for one

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    What were Bonds War numbers during the early 2000s. Was thinking about that earlier today. Imagine they were up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugfan View Post
    It's hard to find a good power hitting catcher and 3rd base? 3rd base has been a joke since Chipper retired. The cheap Braves would have to spend money on a decent free agent for once. Or trade away a bunch of our good pitching prospects for one
    now that Freddie is a third baseman it is more doable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I don't know that it's all that likely we would look like the Cubs 2-3 years ago either, even if we had focused on position players.

    It has been said that pitching is easier to acquire and hitting is worth substantially more. But the last couple of off-seasons don't align with that opinion. The highest contracts have been going to the pitchers and the asking for front line starting pitching has been astronomical.
    The reason you have seen that the last couple of seasons is no true top tier position player has hit the market in their prime. Expect that to change with Machado and Harper.

    Position prospects are safer and as a result have better return rates. That is a historical fact. The Braves are in a good spot because they do have quite a few position players even with a lot of pitchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO View Post
    What were Bonds War numbers during the early 2000s. Was thinking about that earlier today. Imagine they were up there.
    From 2001-2004 he had numbers of 12.5, 12.7, 10.2, and 11.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Again if they are overall good players it would be fine. 2014 Royals ranked last in power, 21st in offense, 4th in defense and 11th overall in WAR.

    Obviously power helps a lot but I look more for whoever brings a better overall package.
    The team would like the 1985 cardinals. It would be a lot of fun to watch. That 1985 Cards team was my favorite team to watch as a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    The reason you have seen that the last couple of seasons is no true top tier position player has hit the market in their prime. Expect that to change with Machado and Harper.

    Position prospects are safer and as a result have better return rates. That is a historical fact. The Braves are in a good spot because they do have quite a few position players even with a lot of pitchers.
    Interestingly, the best trade the Braves made by far, was acquiring two position prospects in Swanson and Ender.

    I don't even count the HO trade because someone had to have been drunk to make that

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Interestingly, the best trade the Braves made by far, was acquiring two position prospects in Swanson and Ender.

    I don't even count the HO trade because someone had to have been drunk to make that
    That likely applies to the Swanson/Ender trade as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Braves traded away Alex Wood. It happens from time to time.
    not sure if facetious, but he's hardly an ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Mallex Smith has a 145 WRC+. Seems like we should have kept him as a corner OF. Oh well.
    man, you love SSS when it allows you to degrade the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Mallex Smith has a 145 WRC+. Seems like we should have kept him as a corner OF. Oh well.
    Let's see where he is in July. Nothing counts until July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Let's see where he is in July. Nothing counts until July.
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    Did we Jackson or gohard for mallex. I always thought highly of mallex. I think he will be a good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Did we Jackson or gohard for mallex. I always thought highly of mallex. I think he will be a good player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Did we Jackson or gohard for mallex. I always thought highly of mallex. I think he will be a good player.
    Gohara. Jackson came for Whalen.

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