Jaw (11-28-2018), JohnAdcox (11-28-2018), salmagundy (11-28-2018)
Only pitcher I’d like on the trade market is Bauer. Only two years control and more expensive financially than the other two.
We sign Josh Donaldson and bring McCann and Kimbrel back.
JohnAdcox (11-28-2018)
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Again, the Braves used 30 pitchers last year. AA has shown time and time again he will do whatever he can to keep pitchers in the system, and he will rotate through them excessively.
I see no reason not to pay Sam Freeman $1.5M, and I seriously doubt he signs at league minimum as a FA.
Fair point. But, what's the harm in adding one more? To save 900k? And do what with that 900k?
The 1.5 million Freeman projects to earn isn't going to prevent us from signing another player. The more pitchers we have, the better. Signing freeman doesn't mean that our other young pitchers will rot in AAA and won't be pitching meaningful innings for the big league club.
Not really sure why you put quotes around "league-average lefties" though.
Regarding Freeman, if we have Minter, Venters and Biddle as LHP out of the pen, is Freeman really neccesary?
Biddle and Fried are $550,000. Plus Gohara if you happen to use him out of the pen.
Let the numbers-hounds debate who's league-average. Regardless of who that turns out to be, all three of those guys are better than Freeman - historically and projections-wise. If it's all about maximizing everything and not wasting money anywhere, *issing away an extra million dollars on the very last RP in your pen seems pretty stupid. Will that extra $1 million be the difference in being able to sign Brantley or McCutchen? Maybe, maybe not. But if it is, the dropoff to the next tier of available free-agent OFs is awfully big - it'd sure suck if not having that extra money around caused you to have to bring Markakis back or settle for Adam Jones or Denard Span if everybody wants you to overpay in trades.
The Braves will always need to pinch pennies - even when they have huge amounts of financial flexibility like they did this winter - especially when they roll the dice on someone like AA did on Donaldson.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
we'll keep biddle. fried and gohara should be given far more opportunity to start. why would we shift either one of them to RP? they have nice upside as starters (especially gohara).
we also do not know that fried and gohara would be league-average out of the pen. so you offered one guy (biddle) that matched the criteria asked for...
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We do "know" that Gohara and Fried will both be better than Freeman based on both past history and projections.
Let's all be honest here - none of us "KNOW" *hit - that's why they play the games. However, if all the signs point to Biddle being better for sure, you're still talking about paying the third lefty (and one with a reverse-split problem on top of that) out of the pen an extra million bucks when you could use it elsewhere.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
While 1.5 mil isnt that much, for a team like the Braves, every penny counts.
clvclv (11-28-2018)
Without factoring in guys like Fried, Gohara, Touki, etc. (who, if still here, will absolutely see time out of the pen this season), Freeman is no better than the 7th best relief option currently on our team (I'd put him 8th). I want to go to war with the best possible 25 man roster. Since, we are likely to acquire a late inning reliever soon, that makes him the odd man out. And he's out of options, so stashing him in Gwinnett is not an option.
Last edited by Carp; 11-28-2018 at 06:34 PM.
clvclv (11-28-2018)