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    It appears to be that Greene is our next target and will likely get done if you believe MLBTR and Morosi

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    It appears to be that Greene is our next target and will likely get done if you believe MLBTR and Morosi
    Would love to have Castellanos involved as well. Dude will rake once he’s out of Comerica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Would love to have Castellanos involved as well. Dude will rake once he’s out of Comerica.
    A deal is definitely not done with Greene yet. Morosi saying the asking price is still high.

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    Green would be another nice get. Another 10+ K/9 guy with a sub .300 xwoba.

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    Tigers asking for Carter Kieboom from the Nats for Greene.

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    Morosi says Detroit is still asking the Nats for Kieboom if they want Greene. If we pay anywhere close to similar value, I'll be pretty disappointed.

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    For those who chastised me yesterday--

    From MLBTR this afternoon

    Blue Jays righty Ken Giles may not be at full health, but he’s still “in play” in trade talks, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). That seemed increasingly unlikely when it emerged yesterday that the closer had undergone a cortisone shot to treat an elbow issue.
    Teams considering an investment of this type want as much certainty as possible. In that regard, the elbow issues are worrying, even if they’ve been deemed non-structural.

    That said, the upside is tremendous. Giles carries a monster 20.3% swinging-strike rate this year. He’s averaging 96.9 mph on his fastball, which is down from his peak but still strong. And Statcast thinks he has been a bit unlucky on batted-ball fortune, crediting him with an exceptional .232 xwOBA that’s quite a bit lower than his still-excellent .253 wOBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Tigers asking for Carter Kieboom from the Nats for Greene.
    So, Pache from us? Don’t think so, pal.

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    Greene isn’t worth a top 20 prospect. No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Green would be another nice get. Another 10+ K/9 guy with a sub .300 xwoba.
    When lookinag at Greene's stats that .178 BABIP jumps out when his career is around .300. Has he been lucky? I dunno

    The 13% increase in Ground ball rate may mean he's getting more weak grounders helping that low BABIP.

    I also saw where someone posted his increase in swing and miss %. So maybe he's added or refined a secondary pitch?

    I just hope we know something about his 2019 that makes us think he's turned a corner and not lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Greene isn’t worth a top 20 prospect. No way.
    Not a top 50 either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Tigers asking for Carter Kieboom from the Nats for Greene.
    So we can mark Greene off the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Not a top 50 either
    Right. I wouldn’t trade anybody in our top 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Morosi says Detroit is still asking the Nats for Kieboom if they want Greene. If we pay anywhere close to similar value, I'll be pretty disappointed.
    LOL what a joke.

    Of course, Morosi is also a joke so who knows if he knows anything.
    "Acuna is getting lucky, just like CJ did when he batted .321 and won a batting title. He is unlikely to get lucky at the MLB level over an extended period of time. He will settle in around .300-.320 just like everyone else, and when he does, he won't be within shouting distance of the 1.000 OPS he is posting in AAA...more like low .700s in 2018." -Enscheff 8/25/17

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    If we’re trading that high of a prospect then it better be for Vazquez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    When lookinag at Greene's stats that .178 BABIP jumps out when his career is around .300. Has he been lucky? I dunno

    The 13% increase in Ground ball rate may mean he's getting more weak grounders helping that low BABIP.

    I also saw where someone posted his increase in swing and miss %. So maybe he's added or refined a secondary pitch?

    I just hope we know something about his 2019 that makes us think he's turned a corner and not lucky.
    His era is lucky thanks to that super low BABIP but he's still pitching good this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    When lookinag at Greene's stats that .178 BABIP jumps out when his career is around .300. Has he been lucky? I dunno

    The 13% increase in Ground ball rate may mean he's getting more weak grounders helping that low BABIP.

    I also saw where someone posted his increase in swing and miss %. So maybe he's added or refined a secondary pitch?

    I just hope we know something about his 2019 that makes us think he's turned a corner and not lucky.
    He’ll be worse with our IF defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Greene isn’t worth a top 20 prospect. No way.
    Might as well go after Vazquez then for that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    When lookinag at Greene's stats that .178 BABIP jumps out when his career is around .300. Has he been lucky? I dunno

    The 13% increase in Ground ball rate may mean he's getting more weak grounders helping that low BABIP.

    I also saw where someone posted his increase in swing and miss %. So maybe he's added or refined a secondary pitch?

    I just hope we know something about his 2019 that makes us think he's turned a corner and not lucky.
    He's upper his cutter usage by 5% and decreased the slider usage by 5% this year. Fastball and cutter usages are about the same.

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    Sounds like Detroit wants Kieboom from the gNats for Greene
    Get off my lawn!

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