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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Yep! And make that 3-3 2 2B, SB(19) 😮
    Let's just enjoy the ride. No need to trade anyone. If a top player like Sale comes around that's one thing but these guys aren't the types you go all in on.

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    I know the Braves have a huge boner for Q and Archer but with how Acuna and Albies have performed lately and how Maitain has been a 3 or 4 year investment as far as recruiting him goes, I just don't see any way they trade any of them. A package of Anderson, Soroka/Allard, and another pice should be enough.

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    Can't help but believe all the trade talk has affected Quintana this year. That and schlubby rotating catchers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I know the Braves have a huge boner for Q and Archer but with how Acuna and Albies have performed lately and how Maitain has been a 3 or 4 year investment as far as recruiting him goes, I just don't see any way they trade any of them. A package of Anderson, Soroka/Allard, and another pice should be enough.
    We can only hope. Just don't see how that gets it done. Definitely don't think the Sox want to wait much longer regardless. Can't imagine Archer's in play at this point unless at least one of them is involved. Gotta figure they're ready to move Robertson to the Gnats even if they're not going to get everything they want - they've been lucky that neither has gotten hurt during the first half IMO.
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    I just pray Coppy doesn't pull another Olivera deal!

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    The Rays would be in the playoffs if the season ended today. Zero chance they deal Archer unless we offer half our farm system for him

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    Other than Robert, Chicago's top 8 prospects are all but ready to drop. Allard would certainly make sense as one piece to help stagger service-time.
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    Question....

    Braves get Sonny Gray and Sean Doolittle

    A's get Anderson, Gohara, Demeritte and Sims or Wisler.

    That's enough??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixiXSolidXixi View Post
    Question....

    Braves get Sonny Gray and Sean Doolittle

    A's get Anderson, Gohara, Demeritte and Sims or Wisler.

    That's enough??
    Hmmmm.....why would the Braves trade away that much for a #3 starter?? Gotta get an ace if they trade high end prospects.

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    Just asking who is considered a Ace for you? Because Sonny Gray and Quintana they are not Ace. Maybe Archer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixiXSolidXixi View Post
    Just asking who is considered a Ace for you? Because Sonny Gray and Quintana they are not Ace. Maybe Archer...
    I don't think any of these guys are aces.

    Sale is an ace. Kershaw is an ace. Bumgarner is an ace. Syndergard is an ace. Folty is a .......(had to do it).
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    Five Trades the Braves Should Make: https://fansided.com/2017/07/11/brav...deadline-2017/

    1. Trade Matt Adams to the Yankees
    2. Trade Nick Markakis to the Royals
    3. Trade Brandon Phillips to the Angels
    4. Trade R.A. Dickey and Jim Johnson to the Twins
    5. Trade Jaime Garcia and Kurt Suzuki to the Rockies

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I don't think any of these guys are aces.

    Sale is an ace. Kershaw is an ace. Bumgarner is an ace. Syndergard is an ace. Folty is a .......(had to do it).
    Yes and what should take to get those players? Is basically 3 of our best prospects minimum. The trade i proposed for Sonny Gray have a few prospects but not even our best.

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    Latest rumor is Q to the Cubs for a package including Eloy. If that goes down...wow for the ChiSox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Latest rumor is Q to the Cubs for a package including Eloy. If that goes down...wow for the ChiSox.
    I saw a Reddit thread started by KatyPerrysBootyHole starting this. Confirmed by his source Wetbutt23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomabrave View Post
    I saw a Reddit thread started by KatyPerrysBootyHole starting this. Confirmed by his source Wetbutt23
    I thought you were joking...then I found out you're not haha

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    Wonder how badly the Cubs want to dump Heywards contract. I'm not a big Heyward fan but I think he can regain some of what he lost if he can get out of Chicago. I would offer the Cubs Kemp, Wisler, and Sims for Heyward and the Cubs pay about 50 percent of his salary after he declines his opt outs.
    The Cubs would save at least 10 mil a year.
    Markakis could play LF until Acuna is ready then become the 4th OF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I don't think any of these guys are aces.

    Sale is an ace. Kershaw is an ace. Bumgarner is an ace. Syndergard is an ace. Folty is a .......(had to do it).
    I think any pitcher that can post a 5+ WAR season somewhat regularly is an ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleBrave View Post
    The Rays would be in the playoffs if the season ended today. Zero chance they deal Archer unless we offer half our farm system for him
    Yeah Archer isn't going anywhere at the all-star break unless some team gets really really stupid. He's a big candidate to be traded in the off season though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    The other points are more than valid, though. Trading 3-4 prospects—especially if one of them is Albies (or Acuņa)—for Quintana is terrible risk-management. One of the few really appealing arguments for a pitching-centric rebuild, to me, was amortizing the risk: sure pitching at any point, at any level—and especially minor-league pitching prospects—are risky assets; but, obtain enough good ones, and the risk is spread out. Now we want to reverse that logic, put multiple eggs in one twenty-eight-year old, high-mileage basket—and potentially pay for it with the organization's best (as of now) position prospect (who is a much less risky asset, given he's not a pitcher and he's performing quite well in AAA).

    It just doesn't make any sense; and it tells me, moreover, that a lot of posters who moaned about the last good, if underachieving, Braves team—who clamored for and absolutely lauded the first steps of the rebuild—don't actually have the stomach for rebuilding right.
    Quintana is a good major league pitcher right now. Odds are none of the prospects will be as good. Prospects are much riskier and much further away.

    You would never say "I'd rather have three 1b prospects than Freddie freeman for the next five years."

    *i say this not particularly being enthused about trading for Quintana.
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