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    Would love to somehow bring a favorite son back to Atlanta. JHey is probably broken at this point, but he still seems like he could be a great buy low value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Right. The only way Harper even remotely fits for the Braves for 2-3 years is is ALL those young guys pan out to fill the rest of the roster very cheaply.

    There is simply no way Harper fits on this roster for more than 2-3 years though, so it would be a huge gamble on him deciding to opt out.

    Having said that, there is no reason the Yankees bent over backwards to reset their tax penalty and can have Harper/Judge/Stanton rotating LF/RF/DH no problem. The Dodgers went to the trouble of acquiring Kemp to reset their tax penalty, and have a glaring hole in the OF. The Cubs also need an OFer. So do the Giants. The Nats probably will too.

    All those teams have more money than the Braves. I would bet on one of them signing him.

    Just eyeballing it, I think the Braves could manage it for three years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Just eyeballing it, I think the Braves could manage it for three years.
    After that, things would be tight.

    You'd need for either your farm system to continue pumping out good, cheap players or you would need your front office to have made a lot of solid deals and acquisitions.

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    Harper contract would have to be some sort of front loaded deal with an opt out after year 2 and 3, and probably a 3rd opt out as well. Something like:

    2019 (26): $45M
    2020 (27): $45M, opt out 1
    2021 (28): $40M, opt out 2
    2022 (29): $35M, opt out 3
    2023 (30): $35M
    2024 (31): $35M
    2025 (32): $35M
    2026 (33): $35M
    2027 (34): $35M
    2028 (35): $35M
    2029 (36): $35M
    2030 (37): $35M

    The Braves could probably swing 2/90 or 3/125, but they can't handle 12/450 long term.

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    Atlanta is no longer the market for players to advertise their brand. He’s a Yank or back home to the West coast.

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    DOB has assured me the Braves won't be interested because they have Inciarte, Pache and Acuña.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    DOB has assured me the Braves won't be interested because they have Inciarte, Pache and Acuña.
    That guy is truly irritating.

    I listened to one of his podcasts and 8 of 15 minutes was about traffic around Orlando and 3 minutes was talking about Townes Van Zandt or Jason Isabel or someone like that.

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    Harper really gets $400 mil?? He’s great but not what Albert was in his prime. He also hasn’t won in the playoffs. I think he’s worth the $250-$300 mil range. I feel like someone like Trout is a $400 mil guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Harper really gets $400 mil?? He’s great but not what Albert was in his prime. He also hasn’t won in the playoffs. I think he’s worth the $250-$300 mil range. I feel like someone like Trout is a $400 mil guy.
    He's not Albert in his prime. Albert in his prime also didn't have guys making 30+ million a year. Now I don't think he'll come anywhere close to ever repeating his 2015 season but as is he's a 5 WAR player at 25 years old with his value coming from offense. He will get an inflated contract for the same reason Heyward did. He's hitting FA at such an early age that you are going to get all of his prime years. I'd say on a pure value standpoint he's probably a 35 million a year guy. Hitting FA at his age pushes that close to 40. Now it's just adding in how many years you think he signs for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJ24 View Post
    He'll be a Yankee. He was made to be on the world's biggest stage.

    Hell, they might as well get Machado, too.

    They'll trade for a good starter like Fulmer or Archer at the deadline this year, too.

    120 wins a legit possibility for them in 2019.
    I dont see them going after Harper, Machado is a more realistic target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Would love to somehow bring a favorite son back to Atlanta. JHey is probably broken at this point, but he still seems like he could be a great buy low value.
    He's done, but a Ender, Acuna, Heyward outfield would be flames defensively.

    Cubs are rumored to go after Harper. Wonder what they'd want for him if they got Harper, and how much money they'd have to eat on Heyward's deal.
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    Depends what payroll jumps to, they could afford one big contract, i dont know if they get in that kinda bidding war for Harper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Depends what payroll jumps to, they could afford one big contract, i dont know if they get in that kinda bidding war for Harper.
    Can always pull out.

    Good news is attendance is ahead of last year so headed back to 130m!

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    AA on the outfield:
    1.Signs Harper to a big deal.
    2. Works a trade to get Jhey back with the Cubs.
    3. Says screw it...Tucker is raking and Pache and Waters are STUDS...we don’t need a long term option.
    4. Signs Nick to a two year extension cause he’s 80 grade!!

    AA on 3rd:
    1. Signs Machado to a big deal.
    2. Gets Donaldson for way to much at his age, but it’s cool...he’s my guy!!
    3. Riley is a STUD...we don’t need a long term option.

    AA overall roster:
    1. I gots cash in 2019...imma sign some big names...let the good times roll.
    2. NOW I have had time to see which guys I don’t like...let the trading begin!!
    3. Imma hold on to that money, cause all these young guys gonna want PAID soon. I’ll be pretty careful with trading prospect, cause a like ALOT of them!!

    I will say:
    3, 1, 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Harper contract would have to be some sort of front loaded deal with an opt out after year 2 and 3, and probably a 3rd opt out as well. Something like:

    2019 (26): $45M
    2020 (27): $45M, opt out 1
    2021 (28): $40M, opt out 2
    2022 (29): $35M, opt out 3
    2023 (30): $35M
    2024 (31): $35M
    2025 (32): $35M
    2026 (33): $35M
    2027 (34): $35M
    2028 (35): $35M
    2029 (36): $35M
    2030 (37): $35M

    The Braves could probably swing 2/90 or 3/125, but they can't handle 12/450 long term.
    The Braves could probably swing 2/90 or 3/125, but they can't handle 12/450 long term.[/QUOTE]

    If the payroll is 120 million in 2030 we have other problems.

    I like the 3/125 option. Heck 3/150. He'd have a shot to get crazy money and still be a FA before 30 (ghost of Christmas future braves fans for Acuna. Those that want to rush people up. Pache, Albies, etc are going to be very young FA).

    Kazmir, Adrian Gonzales, Dickey and Neck add up to about 45 million.

    I think if Harper come on they can bump the payroll some because they know they will sell more tickets and Harper stuff. Potentially playoffs.

    Line up:
    Albies
    Harper
    Acuna
    FF
    Riley..........I'm not thinking he's great but I think he will be a cheap thumper.
    Inciarte
    Catcher
    Swanson...

    I think the pitching staff will be much better next year.

    I like that team.

    Worst case scenario should be he stays with the Nats and the Nats have to be on the hook for 10+ years and 400 million.

    PS I think there is no chance this happens. But I like it in theory.

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    Even if Riley doesn't work out couldn't we just live with a defensive guy at third like Camargo at a pre arb / arb 1 rate for the three years?

    This make's a lot of sense and we have pitching for days so I don't see the need to spend big on a pitcher.

    You put freeman/harper/acuna/albies in one lineup and you're going to be a top tier offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    DOB has assured me the Braves won't be interested because they have Inciarte, Pache and Acuña.
    Inciarte and Pache are the same type players. I'd trade Inciarte if Pache has an Acuna type rise this season. An OF of Acuna, Pache, Harper >>>>> Acuna, Pache; Inciarte

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    No to trading Ender sooner than 2019-2020 off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    No to trading Ender sooner than 2019-2020 off-season.
    If he could fetch something good now why not?! Acuna could play CF if Pache isn't quite ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    AA on the outfield:
    1.Signs Harper to a big deal.
    2. Works a trade to get Jhey back with the Cubs.
    3. Says screw it...Tucker is raking and Pache and Waters are STUDS...we don’t need a long term option.
    4. Signs Nick to a two year extension cause he’s 80 grade!!

    AA on 3rd:
    1. Signs Machado to a big deal.
    2. Gets Donaldson for way to much at his age, but it’s cool...he’s my guy!!
    3. Riley is a STUD...we don’t need a long term option.

    AA overall roster:
    1. I gots cash in 2019...imma sign some big names...let the good times roll.
    2. NOW I have had time to see which guys I don’t like...let the trading begin!!
    3. Imma hold on to that money, cause all these young guys gonna want PAID soon. I’ll be pretty careful with trading prospect, cause a like ALOT of them!!

    I will say:
    3, 1, 3
    3, 3, 3

    I have followed this team for 20 years and I recognize when my tits are getting squeezed. This team has mastered the art of fanbase manipulation. Its been Bill Shanks' schtick from "MP" to him rambling about Kimbrel resigning here.

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