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    Some interesting shizz about this AM:

    @Buster_ESPN: The Phillies have indicated to other teams they are ready and willing to talk about Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels in trades.
    [ http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statu...07376726941696 ]

    @pgammo: One club says Phils will attach D. Brown if someone takes Papelbon, use $ for a starter
    [ http://twitter.com/pgammo/status/410407708039585792 ]

    @JeffPassan: At this point, impossible to know what to believe about Tanaka. Two most plugged-in people I've asked: one said he's posting, other said no.
    [ http://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/410414293776355328 ]

    @Buster_ESPN: Asking price for Omar Infante is said to be north of $8 million per season, on a long-term deal.
    [ http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statu...17865464889346 ]

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    Rajai Davis 9-10M over 2 years. Now we know why the Tigers needed to clear Fister's salary! smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Rajai Davis 9-10M over 2 years. Now we know why the Tigers needed to clear Fister's salary! smh
    I've never been able to fathom the Rajai Davis magic. Doubles his salary and I don't see him as much more than a 4th OF. A very good 4th OF, but a 4th OF nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Some interesting shizz about this AM:

    @Buster_ESPN: The Phillies have indicated to other teams they are ready and willing to talk about Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels in trades.
    [ http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statu...07376726941696 ]

    @pgammo: One club says Phils will attach D. Brown if someone takes Papelbon, use $ for a starter
    [ http://twitter.com/pgammo/status/410407708039585792 ]

    @JeffPassan: At this point, impossible to know what to believe about Tanaka. Two most plugged-in people I've asked: one said he's posting, other said no.
    [ http://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/410414293776355328 ]

    @Buster_ESPN: Asking price for Omar Infante is said to be north of $8 million per season, on a long-term deal.
    [ http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statu...17865464889346 ]


    Is Infante's this year's Bourn? Guy with a pretty good track record who is going to have to wait for bigger chips to fall before he figures out what his realistic market is? $8 M per seems a bit on the high side for Omar, but if Rajai Davis can bank $4.5 M to $5 M per, it's an understandable demand.

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    McLouth signed for slightly more than Rajai Davis. 4-5M/year seems to be the going rate for a backup outfielder. A 0.5-1.0 WAR player.

    Infante should easily get 8M/year in this market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    McLouth signed for slightly more than Rajai Davis. 4-5M/year seems to be the going rate for a backup outfielder. A 0.5-1.0 WAR player.

    Infante should easily get 8M/year in this market.
    I would give it to him. Could really use the bat and defense
    Last edited by Tapate50; 12-10-2013 at 10:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    I would give it to him. Could really use the bat and defense
    Davis, McLouth, or Infante?

    nsacpi, I think McLouth is a better player than Davis by quite a bit. McLouth may not be what he once was (and he can't play CF so Davis gets the nod there), but I've always seen Davis as a "speed only" guy.

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    Guess $8 million per is going to price Infante out of the Braves' range also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Davis, McLouth, or Infante?

    nsacpi, I think McLouth is a better player than Davis by quite a bit. McLouth may not be what he once was (and he can't play CF so Davis gets the nod there), but I've always seen Davis as a "speed only" guy.
    Infante.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravebonebook View Post
    Guess $8 million per is going to price Infante out of the Braves' range also...
    Would also assume that would force Wren to eat AT LEAST $16 million of the remaining money on Uggla's deal to have any chance of getting anyone to take a flier - can't see the logic in paying Dan more than $5 million per if Infante gets $8 million per in any universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Everything I've heard or read is that he'll be in RF. That leaves Gardner in LF, with Ichiro and Wells as the 4th and 5th OFs (and Gardner as the obvious trade chip).
    Uggla for Wells, making Wells a $21M 4th OFer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Uggla for Wells, making Wells a $21M 4th OFer?
    Entirely too early for tequila shots...I'm still in the office!!!

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    Trumbo to the DBacks sounds official...Angels did good in that trade...Trumbo should do well playing half his games in Arizona, but don't think he was worth what the Angels got for him.

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    @JonHeymanCBS: #yankees #mets #padres have inquired on dustin ackley. #mariners [ http://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/stat...98708430524416 ]

    I mentioned this a while ago, but I'd love for the Braves to go after Ackley. Zduriencik is under intense pressure (with the Cano signing, and Blengino/Wedge lambasting both him and Seattle ownership in the press recently) to win this season, and by all accounts it sounds like he is preparing to go on a Steve Phillips 2001 vintage spending spree (Burnitz, Alomar, Amico, Vaughn, et al.)

    http://seattletimes.com/html/mariner...ners08xml.html

    Blengino said that Zduriencik, "... never has understood one iota about statistical analysis. To this day, he evaluates hitters by homers, RBI and batting average and pitchers by wins and ERA. Statistical analysis was foreign to him."

    Therefore, I propose we dump Uggla into Z's lap posthaste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    @JonHeymanCBS: #yankees #mets #padres have inquired on dustin ackley. #mariners [ http://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/stat...98708430524416 ]

    I mentioned this a while ago, but I'd love for the Braves to go after Ackley. Zduriencik is under intense pressure (with the Cano signing, and Blengino/Wedge lambasting both him and Seattle ownership in the press recently) to win this season, and by all accounts it sounds like he is preparing to go on a Steve Phillips 2001 vintage spending spree (Burnitz, Alomar, Amico, Vaughn, et al.)

    http://seattletimes.com/html/mariner...ners08xml.html

    Blengino said that Zduriencik, "... never has understood one iota about statistical analysis. To this day, he evaluates hitters by homers, RBI and batting average and pitchers by wins and ERA. Statistical analysis was foreign to him."

    Therefore, I propose we dump Uggla into Z's lap posthaste.

    I'd love to take a shot at Ackley as a "roll the dice" guy, but can't see any reason that they'd be willing to have anything to do with Uggla. Still wouldn't mind trying to get Dustin some other way. .304/.374/.435/.809 in 53 games during the second half after returning from his demotion last season.

    Of course if Jack Z would consider Dan straight up for him if we'd pick up the $16 million I mentioned earlier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Trumbo to the DBacks sounds official...Angels did good in that trade...Trumbo should do well playing half his games in Arizona, but don't think he was worth what the Angels got for him.
    Agreed. Skaggs is a worthy gamble. I also thought Towers traded Bauer away a little prematurely last offseason. But Trumbo will probably mash in Phoenix, similar to Mark Reynolds.

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    We need to make more trades with Towers.

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    Looks like Borass' asking price for Choo is going to have to come down in the event he doesn't want both he and Cano to wind up in Seattle (although Choo seems to make much more marketing sense there given the city's demographics). Yankees and Mutts are out, Boston's out, Dodgers sure as *ell don't need him and the Angels can't afford him, Arizona's out, both Chicago teams are out, and Daniels continues to say the price is to steep for Texas to play (so far)...doesn't seem to leave Scotty with many options as a mystery team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Trumbo to the DBacks sounds official...Angels did good in that trade...Trumbo should do well playing half his games in Arizona, but don't think he was worth what the Angels got for him.
    That's an awful trade for the Dbacks. Angels and Whitesox did well.

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    I like Trumbo but for Skaggs and Eaton?

    Meh.

    Regards to Choo, his market will be interesting with Arizona now out.

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