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Thread: Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

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    So Guccifer 2.0 was a GRU officer. What a surprise. Wonder if it was a 400 pound GRU officer.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclus...igence-officer
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    Man, who on earth could've seen that one coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I always find it amusing that people conflate nazi with right wing.
    I always find it to be not a conflation.

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    Hackers can easily disguise their work. Speak to any body you know that has these skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Hackers can easily disguise their work. Speak to any body you know that has these skills.
    What you're saying, in essence, is that there's no evidence that would convince you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    What you're saying, in essence, is that there's no evidence that would convince you.
    No, I'm just saying this should not be considered case closed.

    What we do know is that information was created already to further an investigation so that precedent was set.

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    I agree the case is not closed...but all along it has been much more likely than not a Russian intelligence operation...this reinforces my view...but there is some residual uncertainty
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    so Roger Stone...witting or unwitting collaborator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    so Roger Stone...witting or unwitting collaborator?
    Did you watch his documentary on Netflix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Did you watch his documentary on Netflix?
    I haven't. What have I been missing?
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    My personal opinion--and it is merely that--is that Stone was probably perfectly aware that his position was bull**** (that article in Breitbart in Aug 2016 is truly something) but was probably not legally complicit. It makes him, by my lights, a morally culpable ****heel but probably not indictable. Smart enough to maintain plausible deniability but transparently shady.

    Which is actually a decent template for how I thought the whole Russia collusion issue might break down. I guess we'll see.

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    Wikileaks...witting or unwitting collaborator with GRU?

    do they get indicted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I haven't. What have I been missing?
    Do you remember that show from the 80s ... Solid Gold?

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    I have to say that Stone's 2016 Guccifer apolologia and the concurrent campaign messaging comes across looking like massive gaslighting. That's not to say that it proves complicity, but the timing of what's known now about Russian pitches to the campaign suggests that at the least, they were willing to wittingly, collectively obfuscate the truth for a short-term benefit. They knew. It's silly to suggest otherwise at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Do you remember that show from the 80s ... Solid Gold?
    No. 1980s went by kind of quick for me.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I have to say that Stone's 2016 Guccifer apolologia and the concurrent campaign messaging comes across looking like massive gaslighting. That's not to say that it proves complicity, but the timing of what's known now about Russian pitches to the campaign suggests that at the least, they were willing to wittingly, collectively obfuscate the truth for a short-term benefit. They knew. It's silly to suggest otherwise at this point.
    Yeah. I think anyone who doesn't avert their gaze can see this. Which is not the same as saying it can be proven in a court of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    No. 1980s went by kind of quick for me.
    Okay, this is tainting my image of you as Brad Pitt from The Big Short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I always find it amusing that people conflate nazi with right wing.
    still haven't figured out the political spectrum i see
    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Okay, this is tainting my image of you as Brad Pitt from The Big Short.
    Haha. That would have been me in the late 90s/early naughts. The Barclays years.
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    We have a genuinely interesting cast of characters here, I must say.

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