REAL FOOTBALL Thread

[Heyward]

You arent comprehending. They inherited terrible teams with good individual players that were on the cusp of making the jump.

Unless you think a coach can make a 10 game difference. Did Harbaugh forget how to coach?

Denver had no good players except Clady, DThomas, and Decker when he took over.

And Champ.

Minus that, they didnt have much talent.

[zitothebrave]

LOL Fox took over a 4-12 team with little talent on it.

Carrol basically built that team on his own with their GM of course.

Smith, no.

I can see Reid.

Fox inherited a pretty good team that needed a bit of work.

That being said, Reid and Fox are great coaches who took talent others coudln't get anything out of then maximized it.

Smith inherited a decent situation. Ryan being their QB pick was the biggest help.

[TURBO]

Brady reworks deal to free up 24 million this offseason. Awesome.

In my dreamworld, Vikings cut AP and the Pats sign him.

[zitothebrave]

Brady reworks deal to free up 24 million this offseason. Awesome.

In my dreamworld, Vikings cut AP and the Pats sign him.

What will be interesting drama is if the Cowboys go after AP. He's an UFA, if they have to use their tag on Dez they may elect to go after AP who's a Texas legend he may sign for a discount to play in Dallas.

[chop2chip]

My guess for the offseason is that Josh Gordon makes his way onto the Pats.

[Carp]

My guess for the offseason is that Josh Gordon makes his way onto the Pats.

Unless its a low money deal, I don't see it.

[Heyward]

Brady reworks deal to free up 24 million this offseason. Awesome.

In my dreamworld, Vikings cut AP and the Pats sign him.

Frees up no cap room.

His cap hits stay pretty much the same.

They dont gain any cap room.

People need to learn the difference with cash and cap.

[Heyward]

My guess for the offseason is that Josh Gordon makes his way onto the Pats.

He's a RFA if the Browns tender him but i could see it.

[chop2chip]

Unless its a low money deal, I don't see it.

Considering he's not a RFA until after next year he's pretty cheap (about a million in cap hit).

[chop2chip]

He's a RFA if the Browns tender him but i could see it.

Not until after next season.

[Heyward]

Considering he's not a RFA until after next year he's pretty cheap (about a million in cap hit).

Unless the Browns give him away for nothing (possible), but even still.

Although im not sure why they'd give him away if he'd still cheap.

[chop2chip]

Unless the Browns give him away for nothing (possible), but even still.

Although im not sure why they'd give him away if he'd still cheap.

I'm clearly speculating. I based that guess off of how much he's been suspended and it seems they want to clean up that mess with all the bad character guys. I suggested New England because they have a long track record of simply not carrying about that stuff. They also have junk for deep threats in that team (if you don't count Gronk).

[Heyward]

I'm clearly speculating. I based that guess off of how much he's been suspended and it seems they want to clean up that mess with all the bad character guys. I suggested New England because they have a long track record of simply not carrying about that stuff. They also have junk for deep threats in that team (if you don't count Gronk).

Brady throws a terrible deep ball, so im not sure it would mean much in terms of that.

I saw it would cost around a 3rd if they put him on the market.

[ESP47]

Guess I can lump you in that high percentage of fans who feel bad for Harbaugh. He shares the blame for the crap season that we had. He's getting a three million dollar pay bump per season and he gets to coach at his alma mater. He's one of the highest paid coaches in football and he has zero championships. Yeah he got a pretty bad deal.

I don't feel bad for Harbaugh at all. I feel bad for us Niner fans who are going to have to go back to watching a lot of talent perform mediocre again.

Not sure if you remember the pre Harbaugh days but we basically had the same roster winning 5 or 6 games every year because of bad coaching and extremely passive play calling. All the sudden Harbaugh comes along and we go to 3 championship games and a Super Bowl in the span of 4 years. Does he share blame for the crap season we've had? Yeah because he stayed loyal to Roman who is awful now. But he also shares the blame for giving you a team worth watching for 3 of the last 4 years. How soon you forget the Nolan and Singletary days.

[chop2chip]

Brady throws a terrible deep ball, so im not sure it would mean much in terms of that.

I saw it would cost around a 3rd if they put him on the market.

Well it's a good thing he's pretty much good at everything so I'm sure he would make a difference.

Third is a pretty steep price though. But if he actually plays 16 games then he's more than worth it.

[BedellBrave]

Go Panthers.

[BRule]

You arent comprehending. They inherited terrible teams with good individual players that were on the cusp of making the jump.

Unless you think a coach can make a 10 game difference. Did Harbaugh forget how to coach?

Please show me the "talent" Seattle had

[BRule]

Jim Wyatt of the Nashville Tennessean believes the Titans would pass on both Florida State QB Jameis Winston and Oregon QB Marcus Mariota with the No. 2 overall pick in May's draft.
It sounds like the Titans are seriously considering going all-in on Zach Mettenberger as their 2015 starter.

LOL

[zitothebrave]

Please show me the "talent" Seattle had

They had cap space and a bad division. That being said it wasn't a great situation to walk into from a talent perspective.

Whoever runs Seattle's drafts deserves the most credit. There never IMO has been a bigger turn around for a franchise.

From 2006-2009 they produced maybe like 5 decent players, Unger, Mebane, Bryant, FOrsett, and Josh WIlson. 2010 they drafted Okung, Chancellor, Thomas, and Tate.

[thethe]

Seattle GM is the best in the sport. Hands down. What they've done in the draft has been masterful.