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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    Albies was going to be our starting 2B to open next season so this really makes no difference.

    yup...just like it had been determined Swanson would start at short to open 2017...so no harm done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    and the Braves have said they will call guys up when they feel they're ready. Just a different philosophy.
    It is a different philosophy, but is it the right philosophy for a mid-market team? This is probably the reason I am skeptical about the rapid promotion mentality. It's not that the guys aren't ready for higher levels or the big leagues. It's that service clocks take on increasing importance for teams that likely won't be able to keep all its top-level players.

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    How long before Swanson can be called back up? I wanna play him, Albies, and camargo (3b) every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    yup...just like it had been determined Swanson would start at short to open 2017...so no harm done
    Albies and Swanson are different guys. I think it's easier to make the argument Albies was ready, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    It is a different philosophy, but is it the right philosophy for a mid-market team? This is probably the reason I am skeptical about the rapid promotion mentality. It's not that the guys aren't ready for higher levels or the big leagues. It's that service clocks take on increasing importance for teams that likely won't be able to keep all its top-level players.
    I have no clue. I hope they have a plan. We'll see how it plays out in the long run. But they could be calling up a few major pieces next year. I don't think you want to call up Albies, Acuna, Wright, Soroka/Gohara all in one season, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    I have no clue. I hope they have a plan. We'll see how it plays out in the long run. But they could be calling up a few major pieces next year. I don't think you want to call up Albies, Acuna, Wright, Soroka/Gohara all in one season, right?
    Right. So far I think the optimal plan would have been Swanson 2 weeks into the season. Albies 2 weeks into next and acuna half way through next year to avoid super 2. That way they hit arby at different times.

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    Wonder if we get reputation for promoting early if it helps us sign internationally

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wonder if we get reputation for promoting early if it helps us sign internationally
    Interesting point and I'm sure word gets around to not only internationals but also domestic players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Right. So far I think the optimal plan would have been Swanson 2 weeks into the season. Albies 2 weeks into next and acuna half way through next year to avoid super 2. That way they hit arby at different times.
    You think its right to hold down Acuna until halfway through next season with the way he has performed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Right. So far I think the optimal plan would have been Swanson 2 weeks into the season. Albies 2 weeks into next and acuna half way through next year to avoid super 2. That way they hit arby at different times.
    sounds like a plan
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You think its right to hold down Acuna until halfway through next season with the way he has performed?

    Yes. It's not that hard when you aren't promoting prospects every 2 months. Again the Braves are trying to rush the rebuild and get their best prospects to Atlanta as soon as possible for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Wonder if we get reputation for promoting early if it helps us sign internationally
    What about benching/demotion if you don't perform to expectations in favor of the hot hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Yes. It's not that hard when you aren't promoting prospects every 2 months. Again the Braves are trying to rush the rebuild and get their best prospects to Atlanta as soon as possible for some reason.
    Or Acuna has clearly shown that the minor leagues have not been a challenge?

    You don't think it EVER makes sense to make an exception with a special player?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    What about benching/demotion if you don't perform to expectations in favor of the hot hand?
    We are a performance based organization. Its a fantastic message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    What about benching/demotion if you don't perform to expectations in favor of the hot hand?
    Haha

    No player ever sees themself as not being the "hot hand"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Right. So far I think the optimal plan would have been Swanson 2 weeks into the season. Albies 2 weeks into next and acuna half way through next year to avoid super 2. That way they hit arby at different times.
    But if they think guys are ready they're going to call them up. Looks like they were wrong on Swanson (though Coppy said he wasn't ready), but if they feel Albies is good to go then they're going to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Or Acuna has clearly shown that the minor leagues have not been a challenge?

    You don't think it EVER makes sense to make an exception with a special player?
    So is every Braves prospect a special player? Because they are all getting rapid promotions.

    It makes sense in certain situations. The Braves are not in any of them currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    We are a performance based organization. Its a fantastic message.
    Another fantastic message is sticking with a player after you prematurely tried to make them a face of the organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    So is every Braves prospect a special player? Because they are all getting rapid promotions.

    It makes sense in certain situations. The Braves are not in any of them currently.
    Albies has essentially played a full season at AAA.

    How much more should he have to play there?

    Do you not think Acuna is special? He has been the most aggressively promoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Another fantastic message is sticking with a player after you prematurely tried to make them a face of the organization.
    They stuck with him for 3.5 months when he was embarrassing himself at the plate and in the field. I think they tried for as long as possible.
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