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    Gonna be hard for Trump to pardon Manafort, but if he doesn't roll he'll be expecting some help.
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    I don't think Mueller would hand out a plea deal unless it helps him move up to bigger fish further up the food chain.

    The other interesting thing to think about is what part of the investigation gets impacted by the plea deals handed out. I don't think Gates and Papadopoulos have anything to offer with respect to obstruction and abuse of power charges. Much more likely they have something to offer with respect to quid pro quo (perhaps indirectly in the case of Gates who might be primarily a tool to get Manafortov to flip).
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    I still think it's more likely than not Manafort will be pardoned.

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    I think it's unlikely. The optics of it are really bad for Trump, and Manafort would be looking at state charges in NY and MD with the further encumbrance of having accepted a pardon; i.e. acknowledged guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    I still think it's more likely than not Manafort will be pardoned.
    Can't be pardoned for state charges. Pavel Manafortov is in a bad spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    I still think it's more likely than not Manafort will be pardoned.
    Except he's being charged with a lot of bank and tax stuff that have nothing to do with working for Trump, it appears.
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    I can't say he's not hoping for one, but I assume he's either hoping for a puncher's chance of winning the case or getting it tossed, and is probably pretty scared of his former business associates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I can't say he's not hoping for one, but I assume he's either hoping for a puncher's chance of winning the case or getting it tossed, and is probably pretty scared of his former business associates.
    I would not be surprised if Pavel hops on a boat in Florida and disappears. To me that is a more likely scenario than a pardon.
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    New charges to which Gates has agreed to plead guilty includes conspiracy against the U.S.
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    these MFers were in a presidential campaign, laundering dirty russian money.
    who in their right mind thinks trump could possibly be clean of similar activity? even if it wasn't during the campaign, dude is as slimy as anyone.
    there are wayyy too many coincidences with trump, putin, and russia as a whole. this dude is cooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    New charges to which Gates has agreed to plead guilty includes conspiracy against the U.S.





    who gonna stop me huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    these MFers were in a presidential campaign, laundering dirty russian money.
    who in their right mind thinks trump could possibly be clean of similar activity? even if it wasn't during the campaign, dude is as slimy as anyone.
    there are wayyy too many coincidences with trump, putin, and russia as a whole. this dude is cooked.
    I think Sav has suggested it but I don't think it's impossible a lot of the coordination got done behind his back. Will be interesting if and when the mental genius has to use this defense.

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    wtf what yall be saying if hillary had all these types RUNNING HER CAMPAIGN lol the consistency of being inconsistent is great.

    oh **** that's right all these charges are made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    I think Sav has suggested it but I don't think it's impossible a lot of the coordination got done behind his back. Will be interesting if and when the mental genius has to use this defense.
    i think that part is legitimately possible.
    but this dude has a ton of shady business dealings. i'd be surprised if he avoided everything for that. what are the chances this dude didn't launder millions?
    he plotted with manafort all day every day...manafort who was cash broke, but worked "for free."
    plausible deniability and all that..but at what point, being the leader, is he responsible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
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    The kicker is gonna be the Clinton-Gates-Manafort connection. Just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i think that part is legitimately possible.
    but this dude has a ton of shady business dealings. i'd be surprised if he avoided everything for that. what are the chances this dude didn't launder millions?
    he plotted with manafort all day every day...manafort who was cash broke, but worked "for free."
    plausible deniability and all that..but at what point, being the leader, is he responsible?
    Oh trust me I think what you're saying is vastly more likely.

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    Manafortov was compromised in so many different ways when hired as campaign manager. The evidence suggests he orchestrated a quid pro quo that included the party platform on Ukraine and private briefings on Trump sanctions policy. The big question is whether he was freelancing or part of a conspiracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    wtf what yall be saying if hillary had all these types RUNNING HER CAMPAIGN lol the consistency of being inconsistent is great.

    oh **** that's right all these charges are made up.
    Podesta is squeaky clean.

    How many times have you exploded at new damming evidence?
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