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    Braves have barely 40 million on next years payroll, they can easily make a play for one of the big name FA's next winter.

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    Good gravy.

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    I guess we see one of Mcarthey/Kazmir in the pen. Also that means Fried is starting in AAA or coming out of the pen in Atlanta. THe way the team has spoken lately I think its possible he is in the bullpen to start the year.

    Lots of options emerging. So far I'm positive on the moves AA has made. I don't think third base is a problem so the Headley swap did not bother me in the least. But I wanted the bullpen to be reinforced and it has and with a sneaky upgrade to the starting rotation. Acuan is going to be at some point. I still don't think this means that Acuna starts the year in Atlanta. Lane Adams was very good last year and Markakis does enough not to embarrass himself anymore.

    The way I see it is that the Braves believe there every day core is fine especially considering Acuna will be added to it within a month. These pitching upgrades should add around 2-4 more wins to the team. The defensive upgrade with Kemp out of LF might be worth a win or two as well.


    Big win for the Braves who took advantage of a situation that was hurting the Dodgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This is crazy - two potential canddiates for either the rotation and bullpen.

    Gonzalez already DFAed
    Where does the report of Gonzalez being DFA'd come from?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Crunching the numbers:

    1) Gonzalez already DFAed, we eat 21.5M or almost 3 WAR at market rate

    2) Kazmir at 16M. Probably finished. We eat 2 WAR at market rate

    3) Brandon McCarthy. Expect him to be a 2 win pitcher in 2018 and 1 win pitcher in 2019. Expected surplus value about 1 WAR.

    4) Culberson. Replacement level player.

    So cumulatively these four have an expected negative surplus value of negative 4 WAR.

    Kemp has an expected negative surplus value of negative 4 WAR.

    So I would say its a wash. Any exchange where we get some cash makes it a win.

    Additional thought, we basically moved deadweight money out 2019 into 2018. So this may move up our expected opening of our competitive window from 2020 to 2019. From the Dodgers perspective, it makes it easier to get below the luxury tax threshold this year (not sure if this is a priority of theirs).

    Additional additional thought. I like the McCarty pickup and think it gives us a solid rotation for 2018.

    This looks like a very good first big trade by AA. Maybe a great trade depending upon the cash changing hands.
    Do you think Adams can be a 2 WAR player fulltime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    Where does the report of Gonzalez being DFA'd come from?
    Haven't seen the report, but XM also reporting he's already gone.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Go get Clint Frazier and try to dump Markakis off somewhere else?

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    I'm keeping Markakis around as a 4th outfielder next year. I don't want to give up anything to trade him and I think he does have value to a team that is filled with younger players. Call me old fashioned.
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    Dodgers sending over $4.5MM in cash too.

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    Guessing the Dodgers wanted some flexibility? Wonder who they are targeting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    Looks more likely that Acuna starts the year with the big team
    That's one potential downside. Hopefully AA finds a way to keep him on the farm for a few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaitingFor2017 View Post
    Go get Clint Frazier and try to dump Markakis off somewhere else?
    Get Yelich, sign Donaldson next winter.

    C- Flowers, 1B- Free, 2B- Ozzie, SS- Swanson, 3B- Donaldson, LF- Yelich, CF- Ender, RF- Acuna.

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    Nice to have a GM that knows Kemp is trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Guessing the Dodgers wanted some flexibility? Wonder who they are targeting?
    They just wanted to get under the cap. AA knew this and helped facilitate it at the Braves benefit. Call it a professional courtesy on both sides for AA's first deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Do you think Adams can be a 2 WAR player fulltime?
    Lane Adams. No. Everything he did last year was due to BABIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Dodgers sending over $4.5MM in cash too.
    Wait, so this is salary neutral? We basically just added Kazmir, McCarthy and Culberson for Kemp with no salary ramifications?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm keeping Markakis around as a 4th outfielder next year. I don't want to give up anything to trade him and I think he does have value to a team that is filled with younger players. Call me old fashioned.
    I'd move him if we could, but lot of the big name RP's already signed so. Unless that move made them go for Moose.

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    Well so much for it being a quiet offseason!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm keeping Markakis around as a 4th outfielder next year. I don't want to give up anything to trade him and I think he does have value to a team that is filled with younger players. Call me old fashioned.
    Pretty expensive for a 4th outfielder though.

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