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Thread: Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

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    I worked on a project that involved harvesting data from Twitter and FB....the data was easy to obtain and both companies tried to be helpful...this was five years ago when we were all young and naive...even then though I couldn't shake this slightly big brotherish feeling about what we were doing
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    even the biggest trump haters in tech media like daringfireball are rightfully putting all this on Facebook:

    In the short run I always caution against reading anything into the market’s sense, but in this case I think investors are right. Facebook is in some serious trouble. This Cambridge Analytica scandal proves that Facebook ought to be heavily regulated, and that’s not good for Facebook’s bottom line.

    I take issue, though with the phrase “ended up in the hands of”. The implication with that phrasing is that Cambridge Analytica hoodwinked Facebook, or breached some sort of defenses. They didn’t. The information Cambridge Analytica obtained was exactly the information Facebook provides to advertisers by design. Cambridge Analytica just used that data in ways Facebook didn’t anticipate. Or perhaps better said, Facebook never anticipated that when people started to realize just what Facebook enables, that there’d be outrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Sturg on email hacks: what matters isn't how the information was acquired, but the content.

    Sturg now: What matters isn't the content, but how it was acquired.
    You are wrong yet again.

    Just once again pointing out the absurd hypocrisy of the left

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    within the next five years we are all gonna get fifty bucks from FB as a class action settlement...if they are lucky that'll be it...there are other much worse scenarios for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    within the next five years we are all gonna get fifty bucks from FB as a class action settlement...if they are lucky that'll be it...there are other much worse scenarios for them
    The end of social media would be a temendous positive for the world. It's never going to happen but a man can dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The end of social media would be a temendous positive for the world. It's never going to happen but a man can dream
    genie...bottle...yada yada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Maybe I'm just a cynic, but political consulting is cutthroat and CA absolutely delivered using available data. They didn't hack accounts, they manipulated a ****ty system and harvested information using a predictive algorithm.

    There is no story here.
    I don't disagree with your top line, but I'm not sure that I don't see a story. I think it's a story on its own merits, just maybe not a Trump election story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You are wrong yet again.

    Just once again pointing out the absurd hypocrisy of the left
    Wrong about what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Sturg on email hacks: what matters isn't how the information was acquired, but the content.

    Sturg now: What matters isn't the content, but how it was acquired.
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    Wrong about what?
    Your interpretation of my point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I don't disagree with your top line, but I'm not sure that I don't see a story. I think it's a story on its own merits, just maybe not a Trump election story.
    What's the byline?

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    There are all kinds of angles that are potentially of interest. The privacy angle, the malevolent social media titan angle, the potential Big Brother/Big Data nexus, the novel integration of classic rat****ing-for-hire with tech, the question of whether or not the whole thing is snake oil, the fact that it's bankrolled by the Mercers...

    It can be utterly unsurprising yet still newsworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Your interpretation of my point
    Yes, the absurd hypocrisy of the blah blah blah

    You seem more interested in cheap point-scoring on that front than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    There are all kinds of angles that are potentially of interest. The privacy angle, the malevolent social media titan angle, the potential Big Brother/Big Data nexus, the novel integration of classic rat****ing-for-hire with tech, the question of whether or not the whole thing is snake oil, the fact that it's bankrolled by the Mercers...

    It can be utterly unsurprising yet still newsworthy.
    Perhaps.

    I think digital privacy is passé in all of its mutations. And that the vast majority of people couldn't care less about the Mercers.

    Maybe you approach it from the angle of individuals/enterprises profiting from personal data. Maybe that stirs the pot.

    It's just not very compelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Yes, the absurd hypocrisy of the blah blah blah

    You seem more interested in cheap point-scoring on that front than anything else.
    Are you accusing me of something that you just got done doing yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The censorship of conservative voices doesn't exist.

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    So what will the next fake Russia collusion story be? Any ideas?

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    I guess my bannings are because of the vast left wing conspiracy to silence my conservative voice
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Are you accusing me of something that you just got done doing yourself?
    Sure. But I'm directing it at you, specifically, not at a personal straw-ogre, as you tend to. I think your signal-to-noise ratio could use some work. I enjoy having a dialogue with you, but I find your tendency to go for the (usually facile) generalized jab at what you are against far less compelling than your advocacy for things you support. You're quite critical of other people here...I hope you'll accept my criticism as constructive.

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