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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Flowers has been better and is much cheaper than Lucroy in contract.
    I know but there's been a lot of hard ons for Lucroy on this board
    Get off my lawn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    The board is about to go crazy
    Doubtful, he's been awful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay212033 View Post
    Profar for Wisler and Krol

    Gray for Swanson, Sims and Mueller
    Eww. No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Eww. No.
    Agree

    Like the profar not the Gray trade.

    Gray wouldn't get anyone in my top 10

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    Funny how badly everyone wanted Lucroy. He never made sense for us. And now he sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I was looking into pitch framing and ran in to this site...

    http://www.statcorner.com/CatcherReport.php

    It has flowers as the best and lucroy as the worst
    Yup. Lucky has fallen across the board. Flowers is legit

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    Cubs about to get Wilson and Avila for Candelario... wish we had a stud proven LHP relief pitcher to pair with Suzuki for him.

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    At this point, I'd guess we make zero trades today. Jim Johnson would seem the most likely to go, but he has not put his best foot forward as scouts have been watching the past couple weeks. Hoping a team will take the long view with him. I'd be fine with keeping him, personally.

    As for the quest to acquire controllable starting pitching, I'm not seeing it. Unless there's something really stealth happening, there just doesn't seem to be much noise. Even the noise on Gray has been almost completely limited to NYY in the past week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    At this point, I'd guess we make zero trades today. Jim Johnson would seem the most likely to go, but he has not put his best foot forward as scouts have been watching the past couple weeks. Hoping a team will take the long view with him. I'd be fine with keeping him, personally.

    As for the quest to acquire controllable starting pitching, I'm not seeing it. Unless there's something really stealth happening, there just doesn't seem to be much noise. Even the noise on Gray has been almost completely limited to NYY in the past week.
    This is what I'm thinking. I'd wager we do nothing today. It wont be that the front office is making a huge mistake choosing to hang onto guys like Johnson, Phillips, and Suzuki. It'll be more that there's just not demand for those guys. It's better to keep the assets you have and play more entertaining baseball for you fans down the stretch than to give the guys away for pieces that you know wont amount to anything.

    As for controllable young pitching, I think the only reason we're monitoring that is that it's something that we know we want to get and we don't want to sit on the sidelines and see a controllable young pitcher get dealt for a price we'd be willing to pay. We're perfectly content waiting until the offseason, we just don't want to miss an opportunity if one presents itself.

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    Seeing what relievers are getting, id float Viz hard today. Hey astros I'm looking at you.
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    dodgers have been viewed as favorite for darvish, but teams are at an impasse -- at least for now. time's left, but LA loves its prospects

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    I remember when the trade deadline was one of the most exciting days of the season. The past few years have been really tame, and today is shaping up much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Jon Heyman
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    dodgers have been viewed as favorite for darvish, but teams are at an impasse -- at least for now. time's left, but LA loves its prospects

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    I remember when the trade deadline was one of the most exciting days of the season. The past few years have been really tame, and today is shaping up much the same.
    Most of the deals get done before the deadline now.

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    I hope Markakis, Vizcaino, Johnson, Phillips, Suzuki, Adams, and Camargo are all traded.

    Nobody will want Kemp.

    Bring up Jace and some scrubs. Leave Ronald, Ozzie, and Dansby down in AAA for the rest of the year.

    Let's suck really bad for the rest of the year and get a top 3ish draft pick.

    Then we start next year guns blazing.

    C- Flowers
    1B- Freeman
    2B- Albies
    SS- Swanson
    3B- Profar?
    LF- Kemp
    CF- Inciarte
    RF- Acuna

    SP- Folty
    SP- Newk
    SP- Dickey
    SP- Teheran
    SP- Sims

    Have Soroka and Gohara ready to take Dickey and Teheran's spots with Touki, Allard, Fried, Weigel, et al waiting in the wings.



    Still not competing for a playoff spot, but we'd be better, more exciting, and have a brighter future.

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    I can't understand why people think so lowly of Jim Johnson on here....some bad luck over a low number of innings?

    Playing with fire when have have 30+ year old catchers; which is the number 1 reason going for Lucroy was dumb. Sell high on Flowers right now/
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    I can't understand why people think so lowly of Jim Johnson on here....some bad luck over a low number of innings?

    Playing with fire when have have 30+ year old catchers; which is the number 1 reason going for Lucroy was dumb. Sell high on Flowers right now/
    Who do we replace flowers with next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    I can't understand why people think so lowly of Jim Johnson on here....some bad luck over a low number of innings?

    Playing with fire when have have 30+ year old catchers; which is the number 1 reason going for Lucroy was dumb. Sell high on Flowers right now/
    And replace him with who? Catchers who are good at pitch framing and can swing the bat a little bit don't grow on trees, and with our young pitching staff we need that framing ability. Which is why we need to go ahead and sign him to an additional two years beyond this one. Maybe by then somebody might be worth a damn.

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    I really don't care who he gets replaced with. The team isn't competing seriously next year and he is too old to be an asset when the team is ready to compete. He's the perfect example of selling high.
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    Darvish to the Indians apparently.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Darvish to the Indians apparently.
    Rangers getting Mejia? I think he's a top 5 prospect in baseball. Maybe up there with Ronald and Vladdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Cubs about to get Wilson and Avila for Candelario... wish we had a stud proven LHP relief pitcher to pair with Suzuki for him.
    One of the main reasons the Cubs wanted Avila in the deal was to replace Montero as a lefty-hitting vet behind the plate. Can't imagine they'd have had any interest in Suzuki.
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

    Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?

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