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    Sanders

    "what a long strange trip it's been"

    My opinion from day one was Sen Sanders wanted a seat at the (D) leadership table never giving a thought to the possibility of maybe that he'd be sitting at the head of that table.
    As the campaign season winds down and it becomes obvious he won't be the nominee he has the role that to my mind best suits him. The one I'd always hoped Ralph Nader would adopt. The ideo;ogocal conscience of the party. Along the (R) lines of current day Rush Limbaugh or days past Wm F Buckley.
    .....



    There is this development.
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...nap-story.html

    Face saving on all sides and uniting to win not only the POTUS but winning back the congress.
    I think , the signal of who got what out of the deal will be evidenced by the future of Debbie Wasserman Shultz. Sanders called for her dismissll yesterday.
    Let's see what happens there.
    Interesting times


    “What is in my view our strength and what is literally unique among major countries around the world is our diversity,” Sanders told thousands of supporters Sunday at Rancho Buena Vista High School in Vista, in northern San Diego County. “The fact that right now, in this beautiful stadium, I would guess there are people who come from more than 100 countries all over the world.… We come from every part of the world; that is our strength. And we will not allow anybody, any Trump or anyone else, to divide us up.”

    And from Bill Clinton on Saturday afternoon at Ganesha High School in Pomona:

    “If you look around this crowd, you represent one vision of America’s future,” he said. “All of your diversity, from every continent, dozens of countries, believing that we can live here together as one.… We all can honor our diversity. Because we believe our common humanity is more important.”
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...n-his-way-out/


    Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are now in an extended process of negotiating the terms of his surrender. But I’m beginning to wonder if Sanders understands just how few cards he has left to play.
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    He's a nutjob. a deranged fantasist with no connection with reality. He never has had a real job in his life and spent most of it whining about how unfair the world is. Well buddy boy, grown ups understand that life isn't fair once age 25 sets in. They wake up every morning and live their lives, they don't beg for mommy govt to hold their hand for the rest of their existence. If the DEM gives him any input on future policy they will be making a serious mistake. The last thing this country needs is an antiquated socialist in a position of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    He's a nutjob. a deranged fantasist with no connection with reality. He never has had a real job in his life and spent most of it whining about how unfair the world is. Well buddy boy, grown ups understand that life isn't fair once age 25 sets in. They wake up every morning and live their lives, they don't beg for mommy govt to hold their hand for the rest of their existence. If the DEM gives him any input on future policy they will be making a serious mistake. The last thing this country needs is an antiquated socialist in a position of power.
    Just a heads up. 57Brave and goldfly are the nutty libs on this board and I wouldn't take anything they write seriously. They make our old buddy Poe of Chopnation look sane. :)

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    So coke had to stop making soda in Venezueala due to a shortage of sugar...

    My guess is Sanders thinks this is a good thing now since the 1% won't be able to drink a coke now like the rest of the country

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    n there you go:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...serman-schultz

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    n there you go:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...serman-schultz

    watching national politics are best when your team sucks
    No... what sucks is when a nationally adored candidate publicly supported bread lines as a good thing... and the country is actually too dumb to figure out why that's a problem...

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    According to my sources, Sen Sanders has lost the primary.
    By your standards, some (an advantage of over 3 million primary voters ) are not " too dumb to figure out why that's a problem... "
    You seem to have trouble distinguishing topics.
    As to whether the board is discussing policies or politics or even personalities.
    Kinda as if we were watching a ball game and you implore Brian Snitker to bring out the field goal team with 2 outs in the 8th man on second and AJ due up
    I digress

    The conversation is now how will he assimilate to mainstream (D) .
    A political (process) conversation

    Not whether staunch college Republicans agree with his policies or take the time to poke holes in his proposals.
    Would be akin to ---- me ranting on the merits or demerits of Darrell Issa or Carly Fiorina or (for you Hawk) Chris Christie.
    Speaking of Christie, do you think Sanders will be forced to bow and scrape in public at the beckoning of HRC the way the good Governor was last seen with Trump.
    Or will HRC take it to the nextlevel of humiliation by making fun of his weight (in CC's case) at a public event ?
    That **** should be up our new posters alley. You know the one, he introduced himself as not a Limbaughian then preceded to parrot each and every Rushism from the past 25 years.
    Does anyone else get the impression that Christie secretly late at night hopes he is on that indictment list due out later this week ?
    I don't know. I hear the Oreo's are as good in Lewisberg as they are in West Palm

    So please try to stay on topic rather than just yelling out some irrelevant nonsense just because -- well, just because


    Maybe this is why you feel you are paying 48% tax rate and weathered a 150% increase in HC insurance
    I'm here for ya

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    Now, I have to go to work to pay the taxes your standard bearer ... (fill in the blank)
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    Math is really hard for you, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Just a heads up. 57Brave and goldfly are the nutty libs on this board and I wouldn't take anything they write seriously.
    who are you again?
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    So Sanders is against the death penalty for Dylann Roof?


    And people back Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    So Sanders is against the death penalty for Dylann Roof?


    And people back Sanders
    I'm against the death penalty for him as well. As with Senator Sanders I agree that people who commit heinous crimes should serve life without parole. I cannot really think of a time the death penalty would be necessary unless you had like some criminal who kept escaping jail over and over again. But I feel like with modern technology, that shouldn't really happen ever or at all. Give them life without parole and for the really heinous ones like this ****er, he should have a tracker implanted in him if he does escape that shocks the living hell out of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Just a heads up. 57Brave and goldfly are the nutty libs on this board and I wouldn't take anything they write seriously. They make our old buddy Poe of Chopnation look sane. :)
    hey! who were you at chopnation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I'm against the death penalty for him as well. As with Senator Sanders I agree that people who commit heinous crimes should serve life without parole. I cannot really think of a time the death penalty would be necessary unless you had like some criminal who kept escaping jail over and over again. But I feel like with modern technology, that shouldn't really happen ever or at all. Give them life without parole and for the really heinous ones like this ****er, he should have a tracker implanted in him if he does escape that shocks the living hell out of him.
    tell that to the victims families..... I've often thought that the family of murder victims should determine the sentence, not a judge or jury (unless that is the family's choice)

    the problem with the death penalty is the way it is used and abused . Appeals take too long, it costs too much...etc If we could have a system where people convicted with DNA evidence are just taken out back and shot then I think the idea of it as both punishment and deterrent might actually come into effect. Right now, you get the death penalty odds are you will die in a prison cell and even in a state like Texas or Georgia, it takes like 13 years before the avg person is put to death.

    as far as eliminating it? IMO, as long as there are Ted Bundys in the world, we will need to ensure they never can get back into society again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    So Sanders is against the death penalty for Dylann Roof?


    And people back Sanders
    not people, Millennials. spoiled, entitled little children who spent their entire lives being told how special and important they are. you know, idiots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    tell that to the victims families..... I've often thought that the family of murder victims should determine the sentence, not a judge or jury (unless that is the family's choice)

    the problem with the death penalty is the way it is used and abused . Appeals take too long, it costs too much...etc If we could have a system where people convicted with DNA evidence are just taken out back and shot then I think the idea of it as both punishment and deterrent might actually come into effect. Right now, you get the death penalty odds are you will die in a prison cell and even in a state like Texas or Georgia, it takes like 13 years before the avg person is put to death.

    as far as eliminating it? IMO, as long as there are Ted Bundys in the world, we will need to ensure they never can get back into society again.
    I'm sure the victims families enjoy the trial being rehashed everytime they go through an appeal. I don't think the family should determine it, as I can see that quite easily becoming cruel and unusual punishment. Or what if you had a family who didn't wish the person to go to jail or die?

    IMO one innocent person killed by government is entirely too much.
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    everyone should be against the death penalty

    no matter who it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I'm sure the victims families enjoy the trial being rehashed everytime they go through an appeal. I don't think the family should determine it, as I can see that quite easily becoming cruel and unusual punishment. Or what if you had a family who didn't wish the person to go to jail or die?

    IMO one innocent person killed by government is entirely too much.
    that's going to become less and less possible with the advent of DNA and other forensic evidence. and honestly, I'd prefer one innocent man dies if it means 5000 filthy animals die. I'll even grant you that they should only use the death penalty if the defendant is convicted with DNA evidence. But in those cases, fry em. I will volunteer to pull the switch in every state for every single on of them.

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