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    What's your Top 20?

    You see many variations of our top prospects which is what makes it fun.....So what is your top 20? Mine is below. We'll call Dansby a grizzled veteran and not include him to make more of a debate.

    Top 10
    Ozzie Albies
    Kolby Allard
    Mike Soroka
    Kevin Maitan
    Ronald Acuna
    Sean Newcomb
    Max Fried
    Ian Anderson
    Touki Touissant
    Joey Wentz

    11-20
    Patrick Weigel
    Travis Demeritte
    Austin Riley
    Christian Pache
    Kyle Muller
    Alex Jackson
    Dustin Peterson
    A.J. Minter
    Lucas Sims
    Rio Ruiz

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    I like your list, except I probably wouldn't have Jackson on there until he shows some life.

    As far as likely contributing at the MLB level, Minter is up there for me. Way up there.
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    Mine:

    1. Albies
    2. Swanson
    3. Allard
    4. Soroka
    5. Acuna
    6. Anderson
    7. Newcomb
    8. Fried
    9. Maitan
    10. Toussaint
    11. Peterson
    12. Riley
    13. Ruiz
    14. Pache
    15. Sims
    16. Wentz
    17. Cruz
    18. Weigel
    19. Yepez
    20. Minter

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    I know a lot of people complained about the Anderson pick this past draft so I have a question...had the Braves chosen some of the others they were rumored to be interested in, i.e. Puk, Groome, Pint, Lewis, where would they rank on your list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    I know a lot of people complained about the Anderson pick this past draft so I have a question...had the Braves chosen some of the others they were rumored to be interested in, i.e. Puk, Groome, Pint, Lewis, where would they rank on your list?
    our top 5 is hard to crack so the answer to me is about the same

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    1. Swanson
    2. Albies
    3. Allard
    4. Anderson
    5. Maitan
    6. Fried
    7. Acuna
    8. Newcomb
    9. Soroka
    10. Toussaint
    11. Peterson
    12. Weigel
    13. Riley
    14. Minter
    15. Ruiz
    16. Pache
    17. Sims
    18. Wentz
    19. Jackson
    20. Demeritte
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Mine:

    1. Albies
    2. Swanson
    3. Allard
    4. Soroka
    5. Acuna
    6. Anderson
    7. Newcomb
    8. Fried
    9. Maitan
    10. Toussaint
    11. Peterson
    12. Riley
    13. Ruiz
    14. Pache
    15. Sims
    16. Wentz
    17. Cruz
    18. Weigel
    19. Yepez
    20. Minter
    It's a testament to our system that I saw Wentz that low and Muller not listed and wanted to take issue, then I read through it and said, 'Well, can't really argue with that.'

    Mine would be (without Dansby):

    1. Albies
    2. Allard
    3. Newcomb (I think people are being influenced too much by BA)
    4. Soroka
    5. Acuna
    6. Maitan
    7. Fried
    8. Toussaint
    9. Anderson
    10. Wentz
    11. Peterson
    12. Weigel
    13. Sims
    14. Riley
    15. Muller
    16. Demeritte
    17. Jackson
    18. Minter
    19. Pache
    20. Cruz

    The guys with the chance to move up mine the quickest are Anderson, Wentz, Riley, Jackson, Pache, and the recent international signings.

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    1) Dansby Swanson
    2) Ozzie Albies
    3) Ronald Acuna
    4) Kevin Maitan
    5) Kolby Allard
    6) Ian Anderson
    7) Mike Soroka
    8) Sean Newcomb
    9) Touki Toussaint
    10) Max Fried
    11) Patrick Weigel
    12) Christian Pache
    13) Austin Riley
    14) Travis Demeritte
    15) Joey Wentz
    16) Kyle Muller
    17) Rio Ruiz
    18) Alex Jackson
    19) Dustin Peterson
    20) Derian Cruz
    21) Lucas Sims (since we're apparently not actually including Dansby)
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    Mine:
    0. Randy Ventura

    1. Albies
    2. Allard
    3. Acuņa
    4. Newcomb
    5. Maitan
    6. Soroka
    7. Fried
    8. Anderson
    9. Wentz
    10. Toussaint
    11. Peterson
    12. Riley
    13. Minter (closers are nice)
    14. Ruiz
    15. Demeritte
    16. Weigel
    17. Sims
    18. Cruz
    19. Pache
    20. Muller

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    1.Albies
    2.Allard
    3.Acuna
    4.Maitan
    5.Anderson
    6.Fried
    7.Touki
    8.Soroka
    9.Newcomb
    10.Weigel
    11.Pache
    12.Wentz
    13.Demeritte
    14.Riley
    15.Cruz
    16.Muller
    17.Peterson
    18.Minter
    19.Cumberland
    20.Sims

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    I agree with most of these lists. While the exact order is different, the general tiers of prospects is pretty well a consensus.

    The guy I see constantly ranked too low is Minter. He is almost guaranteed to be at least a LOOGY with the potential to be a high leverage LHer out of the BP. With the returns we've seen BP arms traded for, that type of player has to be more valuable than guys who profile as 4th OFers, and guys with bat speed and contact issues.

    To me, Minter is Probably top 12, right around Wentz/Muller, and ahead of guys like Demerritte, Peterson, Riley, Cruz, and Ruiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    our top 5 is hard to crack so the answer to me is about the same
    Kyle Lewis posted a .915 OPS in Low-A over 135 PAs with a 16/22 BB/K ratio...all while playing CF.

    For reference, in 2015, Swanson posted an .876 OPS in the exact same league over 100 PAs, and that lead to him having pre-2016 rankings of 8, 17, or 27 in all of baseball depending on which list you preferred.

    If Lewis were in the Braves system the only guys that would rank ahead of him would be Albies and Swanson, and that's only because he blew out his knee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Kyle Lewis posted a .915 OPS in Low-A over 135 PAs with a 16/22 BB/K ratio...all while playing CF.

    For reference, in 2015, Swanson posted an .876 OPS in the exact same league over 100 PAs, and that lead to him having pre-2016 rankings of 8, 17, or 27 in all of baseball depending on which list you preferred.

    If Lewis were in the Braves system the only guys that would rank ahead of him would be Albies and Swanson, and that's only because he blew out his knee.
    Swanson also was drafted higher (i.e. more hype), and plays SS well. Lewis projects more as a corner OFer by the accounts I've read.

    I would be very surprised to see Lewis ranked in the top 25 so soon, at least as a consensus. He would most definitely be ranked in our top 3 or 4 however.

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    1. 2B Ozzie Albies
    2. CF Ronald Acuna
    3. LHP Kolby Allard
    4. 3B Kevin Maitan
    5. LHP Max Fried
    6. LHP Sean Newcomb
    7. RHP Ian Anderson
    8. RHP Touki Toussaint
    9. RHP Mike Soroka
    10. RHP Patrick Weigel
    11. LHP Joey Wentz
    12. 3B Austin Riley
    13. OF Dustin Peterson
    14. 2B Travis Demeritte
    15. LHP A.J. Minter
    16. RHP Lucas Sims
    17. 3B Rio Ruiz
    18. OF Cristian Pache
    19. LHP Kyle Muller
    20. LHP Ricardo Sanchez

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    Swanson plays a premium defensive position well and will stay there. Better speed and hit tool. all his scouting reports remark on leadership. I do agree Lewis would probably be in our top 6. But I won't base that off 100 at bats. I mean Recker is the second coming of trout in 100 ABs. Lewis comes with his own hype. Much like Maitan we would rank him on that and not his play so much at this point.

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    1. Ozzie Albies
    2. Kolby Allard
    3. Kevin Maitan
    4. Sean Newcomb
    5. Ronald Acuna
    6. Max Fried
    7. Ian Anderson
    8. Mike Soroka
    9. Touki Toussaint
    10. Travis Demeritte
    11. Dustin Peterson
    12. Patrick Weigel
    13. Joey Wentz
    14. Austin Riley
    15. AJ Minter
    16. Lucas Sims
    17. Rio Ruiz
    18. Kyle Muller
    19. Derian Cruz
    20. Cristian Pache

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    Mine would be pretty similar to many others, a few exceptions, I wouldn't have Maitan so high, definitely not over guys like Soroka/Fried/Newcomb/Acuna........... Maitan would be closer to 10ish for me. I get the hype and near-universal praise from scouts, but he's still a 16/17 year old kid who hasn't played stateside. Soroka's had two really successful years, Acuna has played well (when healthy) stateside. Maitan could fly up these lists, but I'm not ready to start him so high.

    Also think Minter should be higher on most lists, seems like if healthy he's got a very good chance at becoming a really good bullpen piece and his road to that spot is pretty clear. I'm a little higher on Cruz/Pache than most and lower on Demeritte.

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    I also think Severino should get some consideration.... if you're willing to jump all in and put Maitan in the top-5... Severino who many considered our 'next-best' international signing should also merit some consideration at the bottom of the top-20.

    A switch-hitting middle infielder with potential power from both sides of the plate, signed for $1.9 million; was ranked #8 on BA's list of intl.prospects. In a year where we didn't sign Maitan; Severino would be getting talked about quite a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    Mine would be pretty similar to many others, a few exceptions, I wouldn't have Maitan so high, definitely not over guys like Soroka/Fried/Newcomb/Acuna........... Maitan would be closer to 10ish for me. I get the hype and near-universal praise from scouts, but he's still a 16/17 year old kid who hasn't played stateside. Soroka's had two really successful years, Acuna has played well (when healthy) stateside. Maitan could fly up these lists, but I'm not ready to start him so high.

    Also think Minter should be higher on most lists, seems like if healthy he's got a very good chance at becoming a really good bullpen piece and his road to that spot is pretty clear. I'm a little higher on Cruz/Pache than most and lower on Demeritte.
    This is about where I am at as well. I'm hard pressed to see Jackson in our Top 20 and I'm not as high on Demeritte as a lot of folks. I know nsacpi has a man-crush on Yepez and I'll admit to being curious about how he will do. I wonder if he starts the season in Rome again. I think all of our three top picks from 2016 should be in the Top 20, with Anderson certainly in the Top 10 and Wentz on the cusp of that. Like Preacher, I am leery of placing any of the recent Latin American signees very high. I think Maitan is in the Top 10, but probably after guys who have played for a couple of seasons.

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    In general I would not put a new international signing like Maitan and Severino in a Top 20 list. For the obvious reasons. I make an exception for Maitan (a bit reluctantly) because of the many indications from industry insiders that he may be a special talent.

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