Ventura's Stolen Bases
Ventura's Stolen Bases
The pre-AA Braves were pretty well known to put more weight on a single uptick in stuff from pitchers. If they saw Allard hit mid-90s even once, it’s no surprise they were all in on him.
Allard was always a risk due to size and his back injury. I think it was a risk worth taking in that portion of that particular draft, even if it looks like he won’t much of an impact on the MLB team.
jpx7 (04-10-2018)
Meh...I’ve never been that high on Allard. Now that Soroka has an uptick in velocity...that’s even better. You had to figure one of the two wouldn’t pan out. I’m not even sure there would be a spot for Allard anyway after this year.
I always felt like Allard was trade bait...it’s too late for him to probably regain his value unfortunately. When you look at Newk, Folty, Gohara, Wright (even Weigel)....they all have bigger stuff. Allard will have to locate perfectly to succeed. Doesn’t mean he can’t, but sure puts him at a disadvantage.
How exactly is this comment contrary to what I wrote in any way?
I literally wrote, "Allard was always a risk due to size and his back injury". The health risk is precisely why he was falling down draft boards. The Braves were the first team willing to assume that risk.
Ventura's Stolen Bases
I still think it was a good pick too without hindsight. Harder to pick a game changer at 14, it’s a real crapshoot, and he showed potential at 16 years old. You would have thought he would grow into some velocity
Velocity growth is pretty hit and miss with pitching prospects. HS pitchers are more likely (or at least almost equally as likely) to lose velocity than gain it as they progress through the professional ranks.
The Yankees seem to be the best organization at getting their pitchers to increase their stuff. Either they have figured out how to identify good candidates, or they have unlocked a training method for increasing velocity. Probably a little of both.
jpx7 (04-10-2018), Managuarantano's Volunteers (04-10-2018)
You also wrote the following: "The pre-AA Braves were pretty well known to put more weight on a single uptick in stuff from pitchers. If they saw Allard hit mid-90s even once, it’s no surprise they were all in on him."
Perhaps I misread, but that certainly seems to imply that the Braves saw a random mid-90s fastball, assumed that's what he threw, and jumped to draft him before his talent warranted it.
But pretty much everyone agreed at the time that his talent did warrant it. That's all I'm saying.
Yes, the 2 comments above mine were discussing velocity explicitly.
The Braves saw the mid-90s, and they became the first team who decided that made him worth the risk because they tend(ed) to over value sudden upticks in stuff.
This is pretty straight forward logic...right? Maybe someone else can explain it differently because it's clear you are on one of your "disagree with everything enscheff writes because I'm desperate to prove him wrong about any little thing" kicks again, even though your comments aren't even contrary to mine.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
https://twitter.com/TheStatCastEra/s...82780646707202
According to this, he was sitting 90-91 mph today.
Last edited by Braves1976; 04-10-2018 at 05:05 PM.
Ventura's Stolen Bases