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    I really doubt we trade for a guy like Kendrick. I could see something like Uggla for Phillips, I would probably do that straight up. Getting Uggla off this team is a must. He needs to be gone one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Angels might be looking to trade Kendrick:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...f-anaheim.html

    He makes $19M over the next 2 seasons, and should be able to put up a .330 OBP and a 750 OPS. Not great, but he is a at least a legitimate MLB player at 2B. No idea what it would take to get him.
    They might take La Stella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    They might take La Stella.
    Straight up?

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    It's not ideal to trade for the right to pay a guy $9M per year for a 750 OPS, but this team only has 1 hole that can be realistically fixed (since BJ needs to get another chance in CF). If Kendrick can put up 2 more 3+ WAR seasons (no reason to think he won't) it will be a huge boost to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Straight up?
    I suspect they would want a little more. Maybe also a second tier prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It's not ideal to trade for the right to pay a guy $9M per year for a 750 OPS, but this team only has 1 hole that can be realistically fixed (since BJ needs to get another chance in CF). If Kendrick can put up 2 more 3+ WAR seasons (no reason to think he won't) it will be a huge boost to the team.
    It makes more sense than the Phillips trade. Kendrick is younger and on a shorter contract. Less risk. Less expensive.

    Maybe La Stella plus Northcraft. I think that would be a fair deal.

    My first choice though would be to give the internal options a shot through May. I would make a mid-season trade if they didn't work out.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 10-24-2013 at 01:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I suspect they would want a little more. Maybe also a second tier prospect.
    I think they'd want a much more valuable piece, like a good SP prospect. There's still no guarantee LaStella is 3/5 the hitter Kendrick is.

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    Kinsler is another option if Texas wants to make room for Profar at 2B.

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    Kinsler is more like Phillips. Older with a bad contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    I think they'd want a much more valuable piece, like a good SP prospect. There's still no guarantee LaStella is 3/5 the hitter Kendrick is.
    No guarantee Kendrick will be two-thirds the hitter La Stella will be either. Uncertainty is a funny thing. Works in both directions. Applies to old and young.

    I do think Kendrick would be the better player in 2014. No guarantees tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    No guarantee Kendrick will be two-thirds the hitter La Stella will be either. Uncertainty is a funny thing. Works in both directions. Applies to old and young.

    I do think Kendrick would be the better player in 2014. No guarantees tho.
    Yeah but there's a lot more evidence at the major league level for Kendrick. There's none for LaStella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    It's not ideal to trade for the right to pay a guy $9M per year for a 750 OPS, but this team only has 1 hole that can be realistically fixed (since BJ needs to get another chance in CF). If Kendrick can put up 2 more 3+ WAR seasons (no reason to think he won't) it will be a huge boost to the team.
    Indications LAA are up against the cap tax and desperate for starting pitching. Dont think prospects would interest them much at this point. They also have a pretty good 2nd base prospect named Green IIRC>

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    Yeah but there's a lot more evidence at the major league level for Kendrick. There's none for LaStella.
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    Sometimes the major league experience is trivial compared to other considerations. There is always forecast uncertainty for each season for each player, regardless of what level they come from. I'm not so sure there is less uncertainty for a younger player. Every year we see established major leaguers way underperform or overperform their established baseline.
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    I don't see why we can't just play LaStella.
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    After thinking about it, i'd just trade Uggla for whatever we can get, and give LaStella a shot at 2B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I don't see why we can't just play LaStella.
    I agree.

    Something tells me that because he doesn't have great speed/athelticism and doesn't have home run power, the Braves aren't going to think as highly of him as we do.

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    I'm not as high as La Stella as some others around here, but I think we should give him a shot to win the job in spring training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'm not as high as La Stella as some others around here, but I think we should give him a shot to win the job in spring training.
    I would only agree with this if Wren didn't have resources to play with. If the Braves were up against their payroll cap, I would say it's wise to go into the season with a 2B a huge questionmark, and let Uggla/Pena/Pastor/LaStella battle it out.

    But that's not the case. Why even take the chance when Wren can just fix 2B and not worry about it? All those other guys will still be there in case of injury, so why start the season without firing all your bullets in the offseason?

    I just don't see the point in settling at 2B when there are plenty of options/resources to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I would only agree with this if Wren didn't have resources to play with. If the Braves were up against their payroll cap, I would say it's wise to go into the season with a 2B a huge questionmark, and let Uggla/Pena/Pastor/LaStella battle it out.

    But that's not the case. Why even take the chance when Wren can just fix 2B and not worry about it? All those other guys will still be there in case of injury, so why start the season without firing all your bullets in the offseason?

    I just don't see the point in settling at 2B when there are plenty of options/resources to fix it.


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    I don't believe in wasting resources when there is a reasonable chance we have an in house option. Just like Mac with Gattis, I don't think we should spend our trade chips on second base. We will have other positions that need to be filled moving forward without a realistic option in waiting.
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