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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Of course there is no proof.
    Hey, can you just make this your signature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Hey, can you just make this your signature?
    I love being one of your targets... It's fun.

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    Presidential advisor, "But Mr. President, if we don't continue on this path of aggressive geopolitical world domination our entire foreign policy for the last 100 years would have been all for nothing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Presidential advisor, "But Mr. President, if we don't continue on this path of aggressive geopolitical world domination our entire foreign policy for the last 100 years would have been all for nothing."
    Woodrow Wilson would roll in his grave at the prospects!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Woodrow Wilson would roll in his grave at the prospects!
    That's not the only thing that would have him rolling. He'd be best advised to stay where he is.

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    Rep. Alan Grayson ‏@AlanGrayson 9m

    When you actually delve into the evidence of deliberate chemical weapons use by the Syrian government, the evidence is genuinely ambiguous.

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    Rep. Alan Grayson ‏@AlanGrayson 7m

    It seems the administration is only putting out info that would lead one to believe the Syrian gov't deliberately used chemical weapons.
    Last edited by 57Brave; 08-29-2013 at 09:50 AM.

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    Of course they are. They need a quick excuse to get into war and the need the American people to buy it. The syrian issue goes much deeper than this chemical weapon story

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    i read one report this morning suggesting the chem attacks were staged by the rebels for the obvious knee jerk response.
    Of course, there is an awful lot of speculation but that doesn't sound too far fetched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    i read one report this morning suggesting the chem attacks were staged by the rebels for the obvious knee jerk response.
    Of course, there is an awful lot of speculation but that doesn't sound too far fetched.
    It's certainly a possibility. And I won't buy whatever "proof" the gov't gives out that it was Assad (while still believing it's possible he did it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The real mistake was invading Iraq. The US should have went into Israel instead.
    Fixed it for you.
    "For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."

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    Rep. Alan Grayson ‏@AlanGrayson 5m

    What is the source of this notion that every time we see something we don’t like, we should bomb it?

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    Dr. Paul floor speech on Syria: 6/19/2012

    As usual, well ahead of the curve and right on the money.


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    It sure would be nice if people would just support Paul instead of continually voting for the status quo candidates and then bitching about the status quo. Common sense apparently makes you unelectable to the party establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    It sure would be nice if people would just support Paul instead of continually voting for the status quo candidates and then bitching about the status quo. Common sense apparently makes you unelectable to the party establishment.
    No. His foreign policy "is dangerous."

    The one we have in place is working rather well, don't you think?

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    I know I'm obviously not an Obama supporter, but his Syria response has just seemed really awful to me. Would be interested to hear what the Obama supporters think about it. I think Krauthammer said it best. He boxed himself in a corner and now he's desperately trying to get himself out.
    thank you weso1!

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    Why can't some other country in that region deal with it? We've already been to the middle east, and given how much they hate us, why go?

    The blood is on Russia/China as they could do something if they wished to, but won't.

    I just don't like us getting involved at all.

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    Glad POTUS took his finger off the trigger and has decided to take this to Congress. Now, hopefully, there are enough in both parties to punt this thing. There are no good options here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I know I'm obviously not an Obama supporter, but his Syria response has just seemed really awful to me. Would be interested to hear what the Obama supporters think about it. I think Krauthammer said it best. He boxed himself in a corner and now he's desperately trying to get himself out.
    He did box himself in. The best response would have been no response. I'm no fan of Krautammer who I find to be a bitter little contrarian on just about everything, but he's right here. Obama should have simply let events unfold without saying anything and monitor the situation. There is no good option here, unfortunately, presidents of either party can never say something like that.

    I agree with Bedell that the best thing Obama has done here is put it before Congress.

    See, I can agree with conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Glad POTUS took his finger off the trigger and has decided to take this to Congress. Now, hopefully, there are enough in both parties to punt this thing. There are no good options here.
    The only reason he did it though was for political reasons and particularly because of the mid term elections. Imo, if the President knows without a doubt that he has authority to use military action (I believe he does) and he strongly believes that he should use military action, then he should just do it. He's essentially punting this one.
    thank you weso1!

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