2016-2017 Off-Season Thread

[chop2chip]

lol.. wonder if the new luxury tax penalties are going to thin his market out. while not death, they are a bit more harsh and I think teams are going to start to want to stay within the threshold.

Can't see any team going into the luxury tax any more. Maybe for a season, but definitely not long term.

[GovClintonTyree]

Dude plays cornhole. Watch your back.

Careful. You'll get branded a bigot or worse.

[bravesfanforlife88]

Careful. You'll get branded a bigot or worse.

Donald trump supporter! You deplorable you!

[thewupk]

Lots of things are coalescing for the Braves to have a damn good team in 2018.

Even without this rule change I think next offseason is where you start to make your move in FA.

[Enscheff]

Even without this rule change I think next offseason is where you start to make your move in FA.

Lucroy makes a lot of sense next offseason. At that point a trade for Archer (with 4 years control) starts to make sense too.

[Chico]

I still don't think we're going to be going after guys with a QO. I think we want to continue to build through the draft and losing a 2nd round pick isn't something we're going to want to do.

[thewupk]

I still don't think we're going to be going after guys with a QO. I think we want to continue to build through the draft and losing a 2nd round pick isn't something we're going to want to do.

With the Braves getting revenue sharing that bumps us to our 3rd highest draft pick (whenever that is). That is definitely worth it for the right player.

[Chico]

With the Braves getting revenue sharing that bumps us to our 3rd highest draft pick (whenever that is). That is definitely worth it for the right player.

Yes. The 3rd would make it more likely we'd go after a guy like Lucroy. I didn't peg us for one of the teams getting revenue sharing though.

[thewupk]

Yes. The 3rd would make it more likely we'd go after a guy like Lucroy. I didn't peg us for one of the teams getting revenue sharing though.

It's a recent development that apparently starts next year.

[Enscheff]

Food for thought:

Brad
12:05 Give me a breakout prospect in the Atlanta system in 2017.
Eric A Longenhagen
12:05 Jimmy Walker. Not as good as other arms in the system but an underrated relief prospect.

Julio Pepper
12:10 Are Laureano and Acuna top 50 prospects?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:10 Acuna maybe, Laureano probably not but I really like him.

Shawn Coleman
12:29 If you were another team talking with the braves, what pitching and hitting prospect would you be focused on in trying to acquire besides Albies, Allard, or Newcomb?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:29 Fired
Fried, not fired.

Jon
12:35 Which Atlanta pitching prospect has the best shot to reach his ceiling in your mind?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:35 Really good question. I assume you mean of the top arms and not some relief prospect that's already there. I'll say Kolby Allard.

(only included because I've been interested in the Braves acquiring Candelario for 3B long term)
BOBBBY
12:45 Zips has a pretty high opinion of Candelario for next year, is he ready to be an everyday third baseman?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:45 1B for me, low-end regular, 45 FV type of guyy

[zbhargrove]

HOLY CRAP! White Sox got Moncada, Kopech, and TWO other prospects for Sale... we could have not come CLOSE to that.

[smootness]

HOLY CRAP! White Sox got Moncada, Kopech, and TWO other prospects for Sale... we could have not come CLOSE to that.

We could have, yes. It would have taken something like Swanson, Albies, Newcomb +, but we could have. Without Swanson, it probably would have taken all of our top 5.

[zbhargrove]

We could have, yes. It would have taken something like Swanson, Albies, Newcomb +, but we could have. Without Swanson, it probably would have taken all of our top 5.

Well... Swanson is a huge prospect... but he's not anywhere near valuable as Moncada considering he's the number 1 prospect in the game. Yes we COULD have I guess.... but it would have made us insanely worse :)

[thewupk]

Julio Pepper
12:10 Are Laureano and Acuna top 50 prospects?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:10 Acuna maybe, Laureano probably not but I really like him.

Will be interesting to see where Acuna (and Albies) end up. BP has Acuna ahead of Albies on the Braves top 10.

[smootness]

Well... Swanson is a huge prospect... but he's not anywhere near valuable as Moncada considering he's the number 1 prospect in the game. Yes we COULD have I guess.... but it would have made us insanely worse :)

Agreed.

[thewupk]

Well... Swanson is a huge prospect... but he's not anywhere near valuable as Moncada considering he's the number 1 prospect in the game. Yes we COULD have I guess.... but it would have made us insanely worse :)

Swanson is #4 on MLB Pipeline with Moncada at #1. So while I am sure there is some value difference there it's not some insurmountable number. Swanson/Newcomb pair up favorably with Moncada/Kopech.

[UNCBlue012]

The #WhiteSox will also acquire Basabe and V. Diaz from #RedSox

Jesus

[smootness]

Swanson is #4 on MLB Pipeline with Moncada at #1. So while I am sure there is some value difference there it's not some insurmountable number. Swanson/Newcomb pair up favorably with Moncada/Kopech.

Eh, I agree that there is a pretty big disparity between Moncada and Swanson, regardless of where they rank. And some may like Kopech over Newcomb. I think it would have taken at least Albies to make up the difference there. I think something like Swanson/Albies/Acuna/Allard would be comparable to Moncada/Kopech...then they gave up a little more.

[Freshmaker]

A Sale-Price rotation certainly didn't come at a sale price

[smootness]

The #WhiteSox will also acquire Basabe and V. Diaz from #RedSox

Jesus

Those two don't really register. All in all, it's a pretty fair deal. The White Sox got potentially a ton, but they didn't get anybody who's established himself as anything at this point, and they gave up affordable years of Chris Sale.