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    One of these teams with a vacancy has to go after Saban right?

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    I get the sense that the Payton and Brees era in New Orleans is about to come to an end. I bet we have a top 5 defense next year.
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    Jaguars, 49ers, Bills, Chargers, and Broncos all have vacancies at the moment.

    John Fox could be out as well. Bowles seems safe. Marvin Lewis plans on coming back, but honestly the decision shouldn't be his. He's allows his thug players to continue to behave like little gangsters on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    One of these teams with a vacancy has to go after Saban right?
    Nope
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    Looking ahead to the NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns are on the clock. Here's the top 20 selections:

    1. Browns
    2. 49ers
    3. Bears
    4. Jaguars
    5. Titans (via Rams)
    6. Jets
    7. Chargers
    8. Panthers
    9. Bengals
    10. Bills
    11. Saints
    12. Browns (via Eagles)
    13. Cardinals
    14. Colts*
    15. Eagles (via Vikings)*
    16. Ravens
    17. Redskins
    18. Titans
    19. Buccaneers
    20. Broncos

    *subject to coin flip
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    So after 17 Weeks, Ryan leads all QBs in DYAR, DVOA and Total QBR.

    If he doesn't win MVP, I'm gonna riot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    So after 17 Weeks, Ryan leads all QBs in DYAR, DVOA and Total QBR.

    If he doesn't win MVP, I'm gonna riot.
    He's the favorite per Vegas. At this point I would be surprised if he doesn't win.

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    I would be surprised if he does win. It's still largely a high school popularity contest. He most likely finishes behind Rodgers and Brady in the voting. Ryan won't ever be viewed like he deserves to be without winning a ring. Just the reality of NFL people these days.

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    Has to be Rodgers. Pretty much had zero running game all season and there was a stretch when his defense was not doing anything positive. Rpdgers had a great season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    He's the favorite per Vegas. At this point I would be surprised if he doesn't win.
    All joking aside, he deserves it. I would put Bell behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    They can't franchise him again right ?
    Yes, they can and probably will. I've never seen a bigger mental midget than Kirk Cousins. When the going is good and he's playing an average defense, he lights them up. When he gets any type of pressure (whether it be big game or defensive pressure, or he throws an early pick), he shrinks into crap.

    They played a team with nothing to play for at home and he can't hit wide open after wide open WRs. Then throws a pick with plenty of time on the clock and the team a few yards away from field goal range.

    I'm fine bringing him back at a reasonable deal for a QB (20 mil) because it is way too difficult to find a competent QB in the NFL, but if he's signed long term, there better be an out after 2-3 years. He will never win the playoffs; he just doesn't have it in him. If some team wants to give us 2 first round picks for him, I'd be really interested in accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    Looking ahead to the NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns are on the clock. Here's the top 20 selections:

    1. Browns
    2. 49ers
    3. Bears
    4. Jaguars
    5. Titans (via Rams)
    6. Jets
    7. Chargers
    8. Panthers
    9. Bengals
    10. Bills
    11. Saints
    12. Browns (via Eagles)
    13. Cardinals
    14. Colts*
    15. Eagles (via Vikings)*
    16. Ravens
    17. Redskins
    18. Titans
    19. Buccaneers
    20. Broncos

    *subject to coin flip
    I expect the Titans to be really good next year, and the Jags could be too. They have a lot of talent down there, they just need the right coach and a couple more pieces to be pretty decent. The Browns should improve too. I like their HC but they have a LOT of holes to fill, way more IMO than the Jags or the Titans. Just my opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    I expect the Titans to be really good next year, and the Jags could be too. They have a lot of talent down there, they just need the right coach and a couple more pieces to be pretty decent. The Browns should improve too. I like their HC but they have a LOT of holes to fill, way more IMO than the Jags or the Titans. Just my opinion though.
    I love the Jags talent. If they can just get some decent QB play, they could easily win that despicable division.
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    His receivers couldn't get open against this team with nothing to play for. His running game was invisible again. His defense is terrible and allowed a bad offense to make plays. The first interception wasn't his fault. The wideout slipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    His receivers couldn't get open against this team with nothing to play for. His running game was invisible again. His defense is terrible and allowed a bad offense to make plays. The first interception wasn't his fault. The wideout slipped.
    The defense gave up 13 points. The WRs were open all day long. Missed wide open Djax twice. Didn't even look Crowders way twice when he didn't have anyone covering him. Threw an inexcusable INT on the last possession.

    They have one of the best WR cores in the NFL, really good OL, great TE, and a running game that averaged 4.5 ypc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    The defense gave up 13 points. The WRs were open all day long. Missed wide open Djax twice. Didn't even look Crowders way twice when he didn't have anyone covering him. Threw an inexcusable INT on the last possession.

    They have one of the best WR cores in the NFL, really good OL, great TE, and a running game that averaged 4.5 ypc.

    Sure he didn't see Crowder, but you can't pin everything that's wrong with the Redskins on Cousins. The interception was vintage Kirk Cousins getting rattled and trying to do too much. Something he did a lot of at MSU. What about the secondary that got burned on the go ahead field goal drive late in the game? Norman is so overrated too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Sure he didn't see Crowder, but you can't pin everything that's wrong with the Redskins on Cousins. The interception was vintage Kirk Cousins getting rattled and trying to do too much. Something he did a lot of at MSU. What about the secondary that got burned on the go ahead field goal drive late in the game? Norman is so overrated too.
    That wasn't even Norman....it was Greg Toler; our 4th corner.

    You shouldn't have to lament a field goal to give the offense 13 points if your offense (and QB) would actually score some points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    I love the Jags talent. If they can just get some decent QB play, they could easily win that despicable division.
    AFC South sported 3 teams with .500 records or better. While none of the teams are near an elite AFC team, the Colts, Titans, and Texans were highly competitive this year. NFC West was actually the worst division this year by a good bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    AFC South sported 3 teams with .500 records or better. While none of the teams are near an elite AFC team, the Colts, Titans, and Texans were highly competitive this year. NFC West was actually the worst division this year by a good bit.
    NFL divisions and their team efficiency rankings

    AFC East
    Pats - 1
    MIA - 17
    Buf - 19
    NYJ - 32

    Average of 17.25

    AFC North
    Pit - 5
    BAL - 12
    CIN - 15
    Cle - 31

    Average of 15.75

    AFC South

    Ten - 13
    Ind - 24
    Jac - 26
    Hou - 29

    Average 23

    AFC West

    KC - 6
    Oak - 11
    Den - 14
    SD - 20

    Average 12.75

    NFC East
    Dal - 2
    Phi - 4
    Was - 8
    NYG - 10

    Average 6

    NFC North

    GB - 7
    Min - 21
    Chi - 25
    DET - 27

    Average 20

    NFC South

    ATL - 3
    NO - 18
    TB - 22
    CAR - 23

    Avergae 16.5

    NFC West
    Sea - 9
    ARI - 16
    SF - 28
    STL(cause **** you LA) - 30

    20.75 average

    As you can see, this year, the AFC south was the weakest division in terms of efficiency. Other stats confirm their mediocre at best teams as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    AFC South sported 3 teams with .500 records or better. While none of the teams are near an elite AFC team, the Colts, Titans, and Texans were highly competitive this year. NFC West was actually the worst division this year by a good bit.
    You can't be serious with this crap. The Texans are one of the worst teams in football and won the division. The NFC West had two of the worst teams in football, but had an average team and a good team. The AFC South had 4 ****ty teams.
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