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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Lodolo seems to be universally the highest rated of that group so I'll go him first
    Stott
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    The more I look at what's available, the more I like Stott. Someone who can play SS in college and has a good hit tool has a good chance of making it somewhere.
    Lodolo in the latest FG mock certainly seems to be a case of BPA, so we can't really be upset if that's how it shakes out. This is the comment they made in the mock:

    "We just think this would be good value here, but Lodolo is polarizing and could get to 13th. They’ve scouted Bishop very heavily, Rutledge is in play, Priester is a sleeper here, as is Hoese either here (under slot) or at their next pick. Langeliers has also been mentioned."

    Perhaps if Lodolo falls to them they consider him BPA and will pop him, otherwise they will go underslot bat at 9 and try to float an above slot arm to 21.

    Of all the reasonable scenarios I've seen the last 2-3 weeks, I think I prefer college bat at 9, and then Priester at 21 hoping he is a cold weather arm that can add stuff similar to what Soroka did.

    Sounds like the Braves have a clear Plan A, B and C, which is good to hear.

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    funny how Stewart didn't "give" anyone else Swanson and Inciarte.
    call it luck all you want. acquired a talented pitcher, had a very good year, sold very high. that's beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The new AAA/MLB ball has made raw power less valuable.
    Something that plays in favor of a hitter like Carroll as opposed to one like Bishop.
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    It really does minimize the value of the Cody Johnson types. I prefer young players with hitting ability anyway, just because power depends on the ability to hit. Now line drive hitters can have a respectable amount of homers along with a ton of doubles. That should also bring more speed into the game. I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Something that plays in favor of a hitter like Carroll as opposed to one like Bishop.
    Completely agreed. It's why I think Carroll may be the most underrated guy towards the top of this draft.

    Carroll plus Priester would be a nice outcome, in my opinion.

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    i still can't figure out why Carroll's size is considered a bad thing, or a thing at all.
    a "do-everything" with contact skills CF sounds great to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Completely agreed. It's why I think Carroll may be the most underrated guy towards the top of this draft.

    Carroll plus Priester would be a nice outcome, in my opinion.
    I have to agree if one of the "top" talents doesn't tumble. They would make an nice bat\arm combo at the top of the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Umm, the Braves rebuild succeeded because the Acuna and Albies lottery tickets hit big time (despite not being part of the rebuild), and Stewart gave the Braves Inciarte and Swanson. You conveniently failed to mention all the pitching that flamed out, and that the Braves somewhat miraculously hit on almost every single real position prospect in the system. They literally haven't had a top position prospect flame out, which almost never happens.

    We don't need hindsight to understand what happened, and why it was foolish to spend so many resources on pitching during the rebuild. The luck they experienced with position prospects doesn't make the process better with the benefit of hindsight.

    The Braves acquired a lot of arms. Some of them were acquired in very minor trades or as secondary pieces of deals. I think a number of even those are still pitching in the majors in bullpens mostly. Hit rate was predictably higher on the former first round talent they acquired.

    Not really playing even handedly if you want to beat the Braves up about Tyrell Jenkins and then disregard the likes of Jace Peterson, Dustin Peterson, Rio Ruiz, Hector Oliveira....

    You can dismiss the Braves success as luck if you want. It's not really an argument though, it's a declaration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Something that plays in favor of a hitter like Carroll as opposed to one like Bishop.

    Does that really make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Does that really make sense?

    Yes. I mean, how would it not? An overall increase in power is obviously going to benefit those that make the most contact. And if you already have huge over the fence power it would obviously affect you less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Lodolo in the latest FG mock certainly seems to be a case of BPA, so we can't really be upset if that's how it shakes out. This is the comment they made in the mock:

    "We just think this would be good value here, but Lodolo is polarizing and could get to 13th. They’ve scouted Bishop very heavily, Rutledge is in play, Priester is a sleeper here, as is Hoese either here (under slot) or at their next pick. Langeliers has also been mentioned."

    Perhaps if Lodolo falls to them they consider him BPA and will pop him, otherwise they will go underslot bat at 9 and try to float an above slot arm to 21.

    Of all the reasonable scenarios I've seen the last 2-3 weeks, I think I prefer college bat at 9, and then Priester at 21 hoping he is a cold weather arm that can add stuff similar to what Soroka did.

    Sounds like the Braves have a clear Plan A, B and C, which is good to hear.

    Priester is exciting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Priester is exciting to me.

    Cold weather and two sport. Starting WR on 6-A football championship team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Yes. I mean, how would it not? An overall increase in power is obviously going to benefit those that make the most contact. And if you already have huge over the fence power it would obviously affect you less.

    Seems like the juiced ball does as much for guys like Austin Riley as it does anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Completely agreed. It's why I think Carroll may be the most underrated guy towards the top of this draft.

    Carroll plus Priester would be a nice outcome, in my opinion.
    I'd be pretty happy with this outcome myself. It would be ideal I think.

    Though if lodolo dropped I wouldn't be upset with lodolo and priester honestly. I wouldn't want to see us reach on order to go pitcher/pitcher in the first round though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Seems like the juiced ball does as much for guys like Austin Riley as it does anyone else.
    Riley is a guy that actually struggled to get his power into games. If you read his scouting reports he's always graded as huge raw power and decent but not great game power. He's exactly the sort of prospect you'd expect the ball to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Riley is a guy that actually struggled to get his power into games. If you read his scouting reports he's always graded as huge raw power and decent but not great game power. He's exactly the sort of prospect you'd expect the ball to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auyushu View Post
    Riley is a guy that actually struggled to get his power into games. If you read his scouting reports he's always graded as huge raw power and decent but not great game power. He's exactly the sort of prospect you'd expect the ball to help.

    The phrase "a rising tide lifts all ships" comes to mind.

    A ball that travels farther should help power hitters. They hit as many warning track flies and line drives that are barely snagged as anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    The phrase "a rising tide lifts all ships" comes to mind.

    A ball that travels farther should help power hitters. They hit as many warning track flies and line drives that are barely snagged as anyone.
    true...but basically the amount it helps a hitter will be inversely correlated to the amount of times a hitter swings and misses. If you swing and miss no amount of juicing of the ball will help. My point is that someone like Bishop has a lot more swing and miss in his game than Carroll. So he gets less help from the juiced ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    The phrase "a rising tide lifts all ships" comes to mind.
    Of course, and nobody is saying it wouldn't help everyone. But it's obviously going to help those who make better contact moreso, because they have more chances for the extra power to help. It's just common sense.

    Doesn't mean Bishop won't wind up a much better hitter than Carrol, but a guy with gap power if going to be helped a bit more than a guy with light tower power with the new ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    The phrase "a rising tide lifts all ships" comes to mind.

    A ball that travels farther should help power hitters. They hit as many warning track flies and line drives that are barely snagged as anyone.
    Sure. But guys with good hit tools will benefit more, simply because they’ll have more chances to take advantage than guys with a lot of swing&miss who already put a lot of charge into balls when they do make contact. But that’s just sort of a deductive take, based on general premises; there will surely be particular cases (and maybe Riley is one) where a guy with a lot of raw power is aided in translating that to game power.
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