The Trump Presidency

[Hawk]

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/23/552960...e-with-democra

[Hawk]

Why aren't we doing a single thing to punish Russia (aside from rolling out a massive sanctions package)?

[thethe]

Trump's approval ratings are essentially the same as they were during the election. But yeah, something about astounding ignorance.

Ratings which are over sampled from democratic voters.

[57Brave]

Should we do something about every country that has tried to interfere with our democratic process? How about all the countries where we did nefarious things?

Russian interference is not the issue.
Certain there is some law somewhere. More than likely that would be difficult if not impossible to prosecute .


What is at issue is did Americans collude with the Russians in any way, assisting their interference.
Which is clearly against the law

[Super]

should we try and prevent a hostile foreign nation from hyper-targeting our elections?
is that a serious question?
yeah, we should try and stop any nation who does that. of course.

i mean, we're trying to stop 3-5M phantom voters from voting...simply to justify a made-up claim by trump. russian interference actually happened and is actually important.

[Super]

oh yes, the sanctions will stop russia from doing it again. totally. for sure. they're finished with it.

the obtuseness has to be deliberate.

[sturg33]

oh yes, the sanctions will stop russia from doing it again. totally. for sure. they're finished with it.

the obtuseness has to be deliberate.

If you're so concerned about Russia (I'm not, for the record)... I imagine that you fully supported Romney in 2012 when he identified them as a great threat to our country and Obama laughed at him?

Maybe Romney would have stopped this

[Hawk]

But ... but ... we aren't doing a single thing!

Except that one thing.

But that doesn't matter because it won't work.

[Hawk]

I mean, if it boils down to hypertargeting, then we should probably invest more money in the tech sector (or the NSA), but ... I don't know, maybe that's too logical of an approach. Doesn't fit into the histrionic narrative.

[thethe]

Russian interference is not the issue.
Certain there is some law somewhere. More than likely that would be difficult if not impossible to prosecute .


What is at issue is did Americans collude with the Russians in any way, assisting their interference.
Which is clearly against the law

And everyone has said that if there is actual evidence to support this we will act accordingly. So far there has been nothing that should lead a reasonable person to think anything happened of this nature.

[thethe]

But ... but ... we aren't doing a single thing!

Except that one thing.

But that doesn't matter because it won't work.

Over emotional children that are brainwashed by MSM.

[Jaw]

If you're so concerned about Russia (I'm not, for the record)... I imagine that you fully supported Romney in 2012 when he identified them as a great threat to our country and Obama laughed at him?

Maybe Romney would have stopped this

"Governor Romney, the 1980s called. They want their foreign policy back." <impartial debate moderator smiles>

[sturg33]

But ... but ... we aren't doing a single thing!

Except that one thing.

But that doesn't matter because it won't work.

Next step is to drop a nuke

[sturg33]

And we find out more used private email servers while in the White House under the orange piece of ****

And in no shocking fashion, his supporters are silent or don't think it's an issue

Glad that you are now suddenly outraged by the use of email private servers.

[thethe]

Glad that you are now suddenly outraged by the use of email private servers.

I wonder if there will be a massive cover up whereby a commercial wiping program is used while also destroying hardware with hammers.

Oh yeah - Maybe in a few months additional thousands of e-mails not previously turned over will show up.

[Hawk]

Any predictions on the Alabama senate race? Is Trump juju real?

[Julio3000]

When Trump's "approve" polls were running in the mid 30s, they didn't matter. They stabilize a little higher, so now they do. Cool.

The Trump admin response to Russian interference in the election has been nonexistant. Argue about the efficacyor wisdom of sanctions, sure, but the sanctions were initiated by Congress with veto-proof majorities and thus only grudgingly signed off on by Trump. The only discernible response to ****ery with dozens of state election systems is a bogus voter fraud initiative. I think that saying that the response has been tepid is fair.

[Hawk]

Holy presumption, Batman.

[Julio3000]

Holy presumption, Batman.

How's that?

[Hawk]

Can we just first dispose of the obvious; approval ratings mean **** virtually any direction they are spun.