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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Players like Acuna who don't have the big signing bonus aren't too difficult to extend for a couple of years as long as you don't really low ball them. And with his age they can still hit FA before they are 30. I expect the Braves to sign him to a deal that buys out 2 years of FA at some point as long as he doesn't bust.
    I hope you’re right, but the recent classes of Uber prospects haven’t signed extensions. That’s why we are about to see the most exciting FA class ever.

    Acuna is all but guaranteed to make $20M+ by age 26. He will most likely bet on himself and go for a $400M payday when he’s 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I hope you’re right, but the recent classes of Uber prospects haven’t signed extensions. That’s why we are about to see the most exciting FA class ever.

    Acuna is all but guaranteed to make $20M+ by age 26. He will most likely bet on himself and go for a $400M payday when he’s 27.
    Players like Heyward, Machado and Harper were all 1st round draft picks too with Heyward being drafted the latest at #7.

    Acuna signed for 100K. Not that he won't ultimately try to bet on himself but I feel he would be more open to such a deal if the Braves approach him in a couple of years about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Players like Heyward, Machado and Harper were all 1st round draft picks too with Heyward being drafted the latest at #7.
    Also don't think he'll be as productive as those 3 in his pre-arb years. Heyward generated 13.3 WAR in those years, Machado 16.7 and Harper 19.4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Also don't think he'll be as productive as those 3 in his pre-arb years. Heyward generated 13.3 WAR in those years, Machado 16.7 and Harper 19.4.
    Maybe or maybe not. Two of those were defensive standouts and one had a season for the ages that he likely won't have again. I think Acuna has 10+ WAR by the time he hits arby though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I don't know how you can say that. Here's this year's Christmas card. The family is youthful and fit as fiddles!

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    You guys are overrating Yelich. Really good player, but not a star. He's basically a young Nick Markakis. He may get 25M annually on the open market, but he's not worth that over 6-8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    You guys are overrating Yelich. Really good player, but not a star. He's basically a young Nick Markakis. He may get 25M annually on the open market, but he's not worth that over 6-8 years.
    You may want to review the production of Yelich vs Markakis again at similar ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
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    I wouldn't trade him straight up for Yelich but would you consider him and a lesser prospect for Yelich and Realmuto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You may want to review the production of Yelich vs Markakis again at similar ages.
    Very similar offensive profile. In Markakis age 25 season, he posted a 6 war season. Yelich hasn't sniffed that. Markakis defense fell off a cliff after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You may want to review the production of Yelich vs Markakis again at similar ages.
    Pretty much the same. 118 wRC+ for Markakis vs. Yelich's 121 wRC+. Yelich has been more consistent The production difference is defensive mainly,
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    Very similar offensive profile. In Markakis age 25 season, he posted a 6 war season. Yelich hasn't sniffed that. Markakis defense fell off a cliff after that.
    So based on the career season Markakis had at 25 you’re saying they are equivalent players?

    I would suggest looking a bit deeper to understand why Yelich is a far superior player to Markakis at that age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    So based on the career season Markakis had at 25 you’re saying they are equivalent players?

    I would suggest looking a bit deeper to understand why Yelich is a far superior player to Markakis at that age.
    OK I'll bite.

    Markakis 9.9 BB% 14.5 K% .165 iso .329 BABIP

    Yelich 10.7 BB% 20.6 K% .142 iso .356 BABIP

    Don't see how he's far superior to Markakis at that age.

    Yelich is better because of defense and baserunning, but not because of offense by some massive amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    OK I'll bite.

    Markakis 9.9 BB% 14.5 K% .165 iso .329 BABIP

    Yelich 10.7 BB% 20.6 K% .142 iso .356 BABIP

    Don't see how he's far superior to Markakis at that age.

    Yelich is better because of defense and baserunning, but not because of offense by some massive amount.
    Lol then I guess Yelich is Nick Markakis. Hopefully the Braves don’t fall on that land mine!

    Or, more likely, Yelich will continue to be a better hitter after age 24 than Markakis was...like he already has done so far.

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    Yelich is Markakis.

    That quote will be repeated a few times I bet haha.

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    Markakis was touted as a one of the better young hitters in the game. It's easy to forget now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atl717 View Post
    Markakis was touted as a one of the better young hitters in the game. It's easy to forget now.
    Kinda funny actually.

    He was #65 according to BA in 2005 behind names like Delmon Young (#3), Ian Stewart (#4), Joel Guzman (#5), Casey Kotchman (#6), Andy Marte (#9), Lastings Milledge (#11), Dallas McPherson (#12), Jeff Francoeur (#14), Jason Kubel (#17), Jeremy Hermida (#18), Brian Dopriak (#21), Nick Swisher (#24), Chris Nelson (#26), J. J. Hardy (#28), Felix Pie (#31), Daric Barton (#32), Jeremy Reed (#33), Eric Duncan (#36), Brian Anderson (#37), Erick Aybar (#39), Michael Aubrey (#41), Ryan Sweeney (#42), Josh Barfield (#45), Franklin Gutierrez (#54), Chris Burke (#60), Sergio Santos (#61), James Loney (#62), and Aaron Hill (#64).

    Talk about a class that busted...wow. The only hitters that were ranked higher than Markakis that year that turned into much were Joe Mauer (#1), Rickie Weeks (#8), Hanley Ramirez (#10), Prince Fielder (#15), Carlos Quentin (#22), Ryan Howard (#27), Brian McCann (#44), Edwin Encarnacion (#56), and Curtis Granderson (#57). Certainly not a terrible class overall, but just another example of why being a Top 100 (or higher) guy doesn't necessarily make you a future "star".
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