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    Other points of note:

    - The Atlanta Braves organization will serve as the design and construction manager for the project. The Atlanta Braves will be responsible for any cost overruns.
    - Except for Cobb County’s right to conduct a limited number of special events, the Atlanta Braves have exclusive rights to use and operate the Stadium and permit third parties to do the same.
    - Because there are no new taxes here outside of the self-taxing CID, the County Commission can approve the proposal without a countywide referendum. Cobb County residents will cover nearly half of the Braves' ballpark without getting to vote on it.

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    "Cumberland District taxes*

    Welp, looks like I'll be paying for part of the stadium myself. Y'all can thank me later.

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    There is clearly a lot of political jockeying going on in Cobb County that we will probably never quite get the full story on. Yes, officials are boasting that there will be no tax increases related to the stadium now, but they've fashioned the pooling of a funds in a way that allows them to collectively raise taxes in the future under different guises without ever having to say that those increases will directly offset stadium costs.

    The $14 million for transportation is an interesting figure which definitely seems to point towards a big NO for a MARTA extension. I still believe that we'll see movement on that prior to 2017, because on the basis of the grousing I've read about regarding traffic in that area, there's no way $14 million is going to magically assuage the transportation nightmare the stadium will undoubtedly cause.

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    So the Braves contribution is a lot higher than originally reported. Initially, it was stated they'd pay 200 million. This figure has it at 367 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    So the Braves contribution is a lot higher than originally reported. Initially, it was stated they'd pay 200 million. This figure has it at 367 million.
    Theoretically with 10k less potential people going to a game because of lower capacity, the traffic should be not as congested.

    I don't know how bad the traffic is to Turner on your average baseball game. THe only games I've been to were Saturday night games against high profile teams, or ceremonial games like Chipper's retirement #10 ceremony.
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    I only ever park in the Fulton County stadium lot.Getting in and out is annoying, but not too bad if you're at least a little patient.

    And they're going to need a lot more than $14M to make a dent in the Cobb Parkway traffic. It's already gridlocked most all the time. If I go to a game at the new location, I'll probably just park at the mall, and use the skybridge to go over to the Galleria and the field. And they better have a connection between the two, or this will be even dumber, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Theoretically with 10k less potential people going to a game because of lower capacity, the traffic should be not as congested.
    I think you have that completely backwards. The whole point is that more people are supposed to go to this new location than went to the never-at-capacity Turner. Adding in the people who previously took MARTA or surface streets and who can now only take the interstate, the traffic burden is going to be much higher.

    And that's without even addressing the fact that traffic at the proposed location is already horrendous, while the area around Turner is a ghost town except on game nights.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    I don't know how bad the traffic is to Turner on your average baseball game. THe only games I've been to were Saturday night games against high profile teams, or ceremonial games like Chipper's retirement #10 ceremony.
    The traffic on the way to the game can be pretty bad if you don't know the area. For example, if you live on the east side, you can come in through Grant Park relatively unimpeded. Even coming down the connector from the North, most of the congestion can be avoided if you go past the stadium and then take Hank Aaron back up from the south. But you would never really know about those options if you live in a White Flight county, never come into town, and only know to take the connector right to the stadium.

    Getting out can be a nightmare or a breeze, depending on where you park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    I think you have that completely backwards. The whole point is that more people are supposed to go to this new location than went to the never-at-capacity Turner. Adding in the people who previously took MARTA or surface streets and who can now only take the interstate, the traffic burden is going to be much higher.

    And that's without even addressing the fact that traffic at the proposed location is already horrendous, while the area around Turner is a ghost town except on game nights.



    The traffic on the way to the game can be pretty bad if you don't know the area. For example, if you live on the east side, you can come in through Grant Park relatively unimpeded. Even coming down the connector from the North, most of the congestion can be avoided if you go past the stadium and then take Hank Aaron back up from the south. But you would never really know about those options if you live in a White Flight county, never come into town, and only know to take the connector right to the stadium.

    Getting out can be a nightmare or a breeze, depending on where you park.
    Yeah, but it will always scare the **** out of your wife and kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    Theoretically with 10k less potential people going to a game because of lower capacity, the traffic should be not as congested.

    I don't know how bad the traffic is to Turner on your average baseball game. THe only games I've been to were Saturday night games against high profile teams, or ceremonial games like Chipper's retirement #10 ceremony.

    that makes no sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    I think you have that completely backwards. The whole point is that more people are supposed to go to this new location than went to the never-at-capacity Turner. Adding in the people who previously took MARTA or surface streets and who can now only take the interstate, the traffic burden is going to be much higher.

    And that's without even addressing the fact that traffic at the proposed location is already horrendous, while the area around Turner is a ghost town except on game nights.



    The traffic on the way to the game can be pretty bad if you don't know the area. For example, if you live on the east side, you can come in through Grant Park relatively unimpeded. Even coming down the connector from the North, most of the congestion can be avoided if you go past the stadium and then take Hank Aaron back up from the south. But you would never really know about those options if you live in a White Flight county, never come into town, and only know to take the connector right to the stadium.

    Getting out can be a nightmare or a breeze, depending on where you park.
    glad to see met cover it

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    Here is my take on the move, not that anyone cares. I love the move and here are some reasons. It will be fun going to the game early and/or staying late because there is something to do besides rushing to the car to beat the traffic. As for the traffic in Cobb, if people are going early and staying late, the traffic will be diluted coming in and out of the stadium. There are only about 55 weekday games at home. So, the residents can relax. I am assuming a couple of complex only exits will be built, kinda like the North Springs MARTA station. I'm excited about this. I HATE downtown Atlanta with a passion.

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    AJC: Atlanta Braves Plan $400 Million Entertainment District:

    http://www.ajc.com/news/business/atl...nt-dist/nbyxr/

    Link also has some some drawings for what the district & stadium might look like.
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    That looks bad arse. This is a great move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    The $14 million for transportation is an interesting figure which definitely seems to point towards a big NO for a MARTA extension. I still believe that we'll see movement on that prior to 2017, because on the basis of the grousing I've read about regarding traffic in that area, there's no way $14 million is going to magically assuage the transportation nightmare the stadium will undoubtedly cause.
    I have a hard time imagining that $14 million would cover more than the new exit.

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    It wasn't long ago that there was ideas put forth about the area around Turner Field for development... Here's the link:
    http://www.ajc.com/news/business/vis...ng-lots/nTsPT/

    Obviously this doesn't really help with traffic or MARTA but it's not much different than the new stadium sight. What the Braves must be looking at was the revenue wasn't going to be much better than what they wanted and then the renovation to Turner Field itself. At the end of the day it'll be better for the team to make the move to Cobb County as long as they do this right and build a stadium worth having for a long time.

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    I'm just mad now, because now I have to make a new Chop Country banner with a different background and remove the Turner Field logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    I'm just mad now, because now I have to make a new Chop Country banner with a different background and remove the Turner Field logo.
    If anything, I would have guessed Maddux would have turned hardcore Satanist first. Tough break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    I'm just mad now, because now I have to make a new Chop Country banner with a different background and remove the Turner Field logo.
    Well, at least you have time to design a new banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithLockhart View Post
    I'm just mad now, because now I have to make a new Chop Country banner with a different background and remove the Turner Field logo.
    3 years to make it though should give you time to make it pretty badass

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    Anectodal evidence but my cousin lives 15 min from the location of the cobb stadium and shes 100 percent on board and says the people there are super hyped about it.

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