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    Well, Mike Pelfrey just got $11MM (+ $3.5MM in performance bonuses) over two years from the Twins. Curious to see what Floyd will get if this deal does indeed go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Well, Mike Pelfrey just got $11MM (+ $3.5MM in performance bonuses) over two years from the Twins. Curious to see what Floyd will get if this deal does indeed go down.
    Terrible deal for the Twins. What the hell? Pelfrey stinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    Terrible deal for the Twins. What the hell? Pelfrey stinks.
    They need him in the fold to make Kevin Correia look better. This way they figure some dumb or drunk GM will consider trading for him. Wren apparently has sobered up so time to look elsewhere for the Twins.


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    Interesting to see how the FA starting pitching market is shaking out. The second and third tiers guys are gradually being signed. But you have Santana, Garza, Jimenez, Tanaka and maybe Burnett still out there. I wonder who is husbanding their funds to make a push for those guys. The Yankees look they will sign one or two. Maybe the Dodgers will get one. Who else will spend big on a starter? Rangers?

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    we have a really good team. we don't need to mortgage our future (money and/or prospects) to improve and compete.
    big names and move are always exciting, not always logical.

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    Well we know who Fredi will be starting in game 4 of the NLDS with the season on the line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Interesting to see how the FA starting pitching market is shaking out. The second and third tiers guys are gradually being signed. But you have Santana, Garza, Jimenez, Tanaka and maybe Burnett still out there. I wonder who is husbanding their funds to make a push for those guys. The Yankees look they will sign one or two. Maybe the Dodgers will get one. Who else will spend big on a starter? Rangers?
    Dodgers rotation is set.

    Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Haren, and Beckett or Billingsley.

    Though they could sign one of the two since Beckett/Bills have injury questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depley View Post
    Anything more than a minor league deal is a waste of money.
    Have to disagree. It's a quality gamble. Floyd when he was last healthy and good was a 3-4 fWAR pitcher. If he's at that level we get a bargain on anything we sign him for. If he sucks we wasted a few million. But I'd rather waste a few on Floyd than someone like Freddy Garcia
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Well we know who Fredi will be starting in game 4 of the NLDS with the season on the line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Well, Mike Pelfrey just got $11MM (+ $3.5MM in performance bonuses) over two years from the Twins. Curious to see what Floyd will get if this deal does indeed go down.
    Probably has nothing to do with what we give Floyd, as this move is asinine. Doesn't leave much room for Correia in their rotation.

    A healthy Floyd will give us the ability to control Wood's innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Well we know who Fredi will be starting in game 4 of the NLDS with the season on the line!
    ironically, Freddy Garcia was once traded for Gavin Floyd.

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    Quality signing assuming it's a team friendly deal. I just don't understand having two huge injury question marks in the rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpeteirish View Post
    Probably has nothing to do with what we give Floyd, as this move is asinine. Doesn't leave much room for Correia in their rotation.

    A healthy Floyd will give us the ability to control Wood's innings.
    ^^^ This. Use Wood in the rotation early - April, May, June, and then work in Floyd.

    I could also see Wren trying this up through the trade deadline and then making a move for a front of the rotation starter if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Quality signing assuming it's a team friendly deal. I just don't understand having two huge injury question marks in the rotation.
    Who are the two big injury question marks. As I see it Floyd is the sixth guy in case anything happens to one of the other five. He has a similar role as Beachy had last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    ^^^ This. Use Wood in the rotation early - April, May, June, and then work in Floyd.

    I could also see Wren trying this up through the trade deadline and then making a move for a front of the rotation starter if needed.
    I expect Wood to do really well in the rotation. I don't think he is going to get taken out once Floyd is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I expect Wood to do really well in the rotation. I don't think he is going to get taken out once Floyd is ready.
    I do think they will monitor his innings. If Beachy is solid next year then I see Wood in the bullpen in September.
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    From Bowman:

    Floyd made just five starts for the White Sox this past season before having to undergo Tommy John surgery on May 6. During the procedure, Dr. David Altchek reconstructed the 30-year-old hurler’s right elbow by repairing a torn ulnar collateral ligament and torn flexor tendon.

    Because both the tendon and ligament were repaired, Floyd could need more than the 12-month rehab schedule starting pitchers often experience after undergoing Tommy John surgery. Multiple post-surgery reports indicated he could be sidelined 14-19 months. If this proves to be true, he could be sidelined until early July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    From Bowman:

    Floyd made just five starts for the White Sox this past season before having to undergo Tommy John surgery on May 6. During the procedure, Dr. David Altchek reconstructed the 30-year-old hurler’s right elbow by repairing a torn ulnar collateral ligament and torn flexor tendon.

    Because both the tendon and ligament were repaired, Floyd could need more than the 12-month rehab schedule starting pitchers often experience after undergoing Tommy John surgery. Multiple post-surgery reports indicated he could be sidelined 14-19 months. If this proves to be true, he could be sidelined until early July.
    I'm no arm surgeon but wouldn't the two things (tendon and ligament) heal simutaneously? Seems like they're adding together the normal healing time for ligament surg (12 mths) and flexor tendon (6 months). Maybe it slows the rehab process.

    If its 19 months the entire contract should be "incentive based" as 19 months means October 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    From Bowman:

    Floyd made just five starts for the White Sox this past season before having to undergo Tommy John surgery on May 6. During the procedure, Dr. David Altchek reconstructed the 30-year-old hurler’s right elbow by repairing a torn ulnar collateral ligament and torn flexor tendon.

    Because both the tendon and ligament were repaired, Floyd could need more than the 12-month rehab schedule starting pitchers often experience after undergoing Tommy John surgery. Multiple post-surgery reports indicated he could be sidelined 14-19 months. If this proves to be true, he could be sidelined until early July.
    It is like they did this so they wouldn't be stuck with a Loe or a Garcia come September. Hope the pay is minimal with a team option for the following year.

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    I'm sorry but I just don't understand this. Why make a move like this still pretty early in the offseason and prevent us from other SP moves? This would be a decent signing in January if we've exhausted all other options but not now.

    I've been the biggest Wren supporter over the years but I'm starting to really question his decision making.

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