When you do the damage that Gattis does when he connects you don't need a high average or OBP. This guy does not have much experience and is learning at the major league level while "failing". He will be just fine. You did not even think there was a 1% chance he would be this good. Just admit you were wrong and move on.Originally Posted by gilesfan
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Exactly my point, thanks. Also, I don't have that info handy either but I recall during his slump him taking too many good first pitch fastballs at times. No one complained about that much, but they'd complain a lot later in the AB when he either struck out or otherwise got himself out. This was almost always because that first pitch he took was the best one he saw the entire AB. He'd also too often swing first pitch when it wasn't a strike. So it wasn't really swinging first pitch but swinging at first pitches when it wasn't a strike and good pitch to hit.
Last edited by Braves1976; 09-09-2013 at 09:10 AM.
Gattis also has 18 homers and 50 RBI's (only one less homer than Mac and two less RBI's) to go along with an over .800 OPS. I'll take that for a part time player that hasn't consistently been a starter this year. That's also impressive for a rookie, albeit older rookie, still learning the league, pitchers, etc.
1% of "this good" is exactly what?
What are you saying? That is not how my comment should be interpreted.
At the start of the season you didn't think there was basically any chance Gattis would stick at the big league level even for this season.
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Wait..is gilesfan saying Gattis isnt any good?
18HR, 50 RBI in a somewhat part time role...More than a few big pinch hit HRs in clutch situations, and is only a rookie. Throw whatever #s you want, but Evan Gattis is a very good baseball player who will only get better.
Somebody in the front office must think so. Bowman and O Brien are both on board now with what lots of us have been saying for months. McCann is unlikely to be a brave next year. So barring the signing of another catcher (doubtful) does this make it easier to dump Uggla. And how could the possible signing of Guerrero impact. Just thoughts.
Best sign I saw from Gattis was waiting back on the curve when he hit the 2nd homer. Now he just needs to learn to hit (or at least not fall down while swinging at) breaking balls from RHers. Everyone knows he can hit the fastball, which is why he hasn't seen many below the tomahawk the past couple months.
I do find it a bit odd that Gattis and his .300 OBP gets a pass though. Everyone realizes he gets out more often than Uggla, right?
This is a great time for him to get a lot of ABs and work on pitch recognition, which is his biggest problem right now. Maybe he can get better at it, but I don't remember any guys off hand that have looked so bad vs breaking stuff that suddenly figured it out at the MLB level at age 26/27.
That's cuz OBP ain't the whole story. Gattis has an ISO of .253 to Uggla's .189.
Its really not worth to try and compare Gattis to anyone else. His story is completely unique. The only reason he struggles against breaking ball pitches is because he hasn't seen much of them and not because he can't hit them. Maybe in the future he will prove that he can't but as of now he just needs more reps.
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People forget that Gattis only had something like 200 games in the minors where you just dont see that many breaking pitches
He was all over Hamels' first pitch slider, after he had tattooed 2 fastballs.
Hes 27, but hes still a rookie. I remember Joe Simpson mentioning that some scouts were raving about how he was just a smart hitter. Hes not all pull. Hes willing to go to RF. He just needs to work on patience at the dish, and that will come with some time. Ive seen some Francoeur comparisons by a few of you, and just LOL at them.
Well,
Hitting 3/10 as a catcher (with his power over a full career) will get you on a path to Canton, so yes I am very satisfied with one below that this weekend.
Last edited by Tapate50; 09-09-2013 at 12:38 PM.
I think Gattis' issues are two fold.
First he has been playing solid since Spring Training 2012. I think at the time of his injury he was worn out. Second is his problems started 2nd time through the league - knowing that is a cliche but me thinks a very apt description
and thirdly - I think his time off (15 Day DL) coming back he lost some of the ability to recognize MLB pitches.
Great numbers, but you've hit the nail on the head with the part-time role piece. I like Gattis, but I don't see him as a full-time 450-550 PA guy. I think he is best suited and will be most productive when his spots are chosen for him. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid, but if he would end up being the reason we would let McCann walk at the end of the year, I think it would be a grave mistake.
I agree. I think Gattis could be a great super-sub. Fill in at catcher and for the corner outfielders and first base. He could easily get about 400 ABs in that kind of role.
Gattis tearing it up at MLB!
Is his power rating on any MLB video games at 95-99?
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