I was stunned when we gave up Contreras. I had a few people here mock me as he was never going to be very good.. I still don't understand that trade.. I like Murphy and all, but why did we give up soo much for him.

water under the bridge, but he always looked like a guy who was going to be a really good player. has a big arm too. no idea about his framing, but I bet it is at least average at worst.