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    expectation?

    Last year our starters won fewer than 40 games. I hope this year we will see more wins from the starters, my projection is that they will combine for somewhere around
    12 for Colon
    10 for Dickey
    13 for Teheran
    12 for Folty
    10 for Garcia
    6 for all others
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    total 63 starter wins

    add 20 wins from the bull pen and you would be sitting at 83 win total
    this would be a reasonable expectation given how the team finished the last month of 2016 would it not? Not enough to make the playoffs but certainly a better showing than 2016

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    I think it's reasonable to expect us to be hovering around .500 for most of the season, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I think it's reasonable to expect us to be hovering around .500 for most of the season, yes.
    Maybe it's the weather. Dreary up here in Minnesota. I see about a 70 - 75 win team. I don't trust the offense at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Maybe it's the weather. Dreary up here in Minnesota. I see about a 70 - 75 win team. I don't trust the offense at all.
    I'm actually a little more worried about the pitching than the offense. I think our offense will be decent, especially once Albies is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'm actually a little more worried about the pitching than the offense. I think our offense will be decent, especially once Albies is up.
    I'm not sanguine about the pitching either, especially with Snitker pulling the levers. As for the offense, a lot will depend on whether the second half performances in 2016 were a mirage.

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    Here is what I would expect in terms of FIP from our starters:

    Teheran 3.40 (yes that would be a career best)
    Dickey 3.90 (moving to an outdoor stadium will be great for him, I'm bullish on Dickey)
    Folty 4.00 (i'm looking for gradual improvement from him)
    Garcia 4.10 (less bullish on him than some around here but he should be better than what we had on the mound last year)
    Colon 4.50 (he's had a great late career renaissance, but I think the end is near)
    Wisler 4.00 (the forgotten man. I seem to be one of his last fans)

    Overall I'm bullish on our pitching.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 03-24-2017 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Here is what I would expect in terms of FIP from our starters:

    Teheran 3.40 (yes that would be a career best)
    Dickey 3.90 (moving to an outdoor stadium will be great for him, I'm bullish on Dickey)
    Folty 4.00 (i'm looking for gradual improvement from him)
    Garcia 4.10 (less bullish on him than some around here but he should be better than what we had on the mound last year)
    Colon 4.50 (he's had a great late career renaissance, but I think the end is near)
    Wisler 4.00 (the forgotten man. I seem to be one of his last fans)

    Overall I'm bullish on our pitching.
    Still big on Wisler. he just doesn't handle adversity well, but he has the 'stuff' to be good.

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    I think Garcia is going to be our second best starter this year. Dickey/Colon will be serviceable back end starter production. Still an improvement from last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I'm not sanguine about the pitching either, especially with Snitker pulling the levers. As for the offense, a lot will depend on whether the second half performances in 2016 were a mirage.
    I don't think our offense will be that good, but I expect it to be roughly average for the NL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I'm not sanguine about the pitching either, especially with Snitker pulling the levers. As for the offense, a lot will depend on whether the second half performances in 2016 were a mirage.
    This is my concern as well. Snit is very set in ways and I think he will be very Bobby esque. I also worry about his bullpen use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I think it's reasonable to expect us to be hovering around .500 for most of the season, yes.
    I don't think that's outrageous. I'd probably take the under if I were putting money on it, but hanging around .500 is do-able.

    75-78 wins unless the injury bug bites hard.

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    I'm expecting 75-80 wins

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    Whatever thethe predicts is my prediction also. He's very objective with his projections for the braves' and braves' players

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Whatever thethe predicts is my prediction also. He's very objective with his projections for the braves' and braves' players
    If anything I'm pessimistic...

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    70 pitchers in all of baseball won 10+ games last year, or less than 2.5 pitchers per team.

    You are predicting the Braves will have 5 guys who win 10+ games.

    So no, I don't see that as being anything even resembling realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If anything I'm pessimistic...
    I always add 10 wins to whatever you predict

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I always add 10 wins to whatever you predict
    Good approach.

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    Not as pessimistic as some of you. Think somebody will win 15 games this season. At the same time, not as concerned with the numbers as the effect on development. Curious about the effect that Colon and Dickey will have on the kids with approach to pitching and how to be true pros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'm actually a little more worried about the pitching than the offense. I think our offense will be decent, especially once Albies is up.
    Yeah, I would expect the offense to be ok and would be very surprised if it was awful. You have plenty of major league bats who might be in decline but aren't likely to completely Aybar on the Braves.

    It wouldn't take much at wall for the pitching to turn out to be awful. Much, much more likely that Colon and Dickey bomb or that Garcia is hurt or ineffective. And I think there are ranges of outcome for Folty and Teheran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    I don't think that's outrageous. I'd probably take the under if I were putting money on it, but hanging around .500 is do-able.

    75-78 wins unless the injury bug bites hard.
    Yeah, 'hanging around .500' is a bit loose, but basically hanging within 5-6 games of that mark (probably the under) is what I'm talking about.

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