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    Oh the Millennials Won't Like This One!

    Paglia, part 2 - or why she's my favorite liberal, feminist, lesbian, atheist writer. Link


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    I really couldn't care less. my girlfriend is catholic. yipee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Paglia, part 2 - or why she's my favorite liberal, feminist, lesbian, atheist writer. Link


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    You seem to really hate millennials.

    I recognize that it's a whiny group and completely dependent on government and political correctness... but to be fair, it's your generation and one before who's kind of screwed us all.

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    I'm a millennial, I suppose. I like [MENTION=68]BedellBrave[/MENTION], but have never liked Paglia. She may be considered a liberal, but I see her as quite derivate of a certain kind of intellectual conservatism (somewhat spearheaded and largely fostered by Leo Strauss) which happened to be very en vogue in certain circles at my alma mater.

    I'm also an atheist that does his damnedest not to sneer at religion (though Scientology challenges that impulse), likewise feeling it a product of adolescent petulance in the face of other people's responses to tough metaphysical questions (or, to put it in terms of Brideshead Revisted, I resist my baser Charles Ryder impulses).

    But that's one of the principal reasons I don't like Paglia: she's as guilty of sneering smugness as those she derides for being smug or snide.

    For what it's worth, I also think she couldn't be more wrong regarding Jon Stewart.
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    Camille Paglia is mostly interested in shouting in the general direction of whoever will halfheartedly listen about the keenness of Camille Paglia.

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    Companies really believe in this whole millenials "thing". For promotion to senior associate at PwC they sent us terrenea resort for a week and a lot of the discussion is how to incorporate millenials into the workforce and how our values are changing. I think the next 20 years is going to be very interesting for corporate america.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Camille Paglia is mostly interested in shouting in the general direction of whoever will halfheartedly listen about the keenness of Camille Paglia.
    You're right, but is Julio3000 not the same?
    thank you weso1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    You're right, but is Julio3000 not the same?
    I mean, I guess you've got me there.

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    Ha! This is fun. Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You seem to really hate millennials.

    Nawwh. Just like poking fun at them. They get in all a tizzy when you do. Take things so seriously. And be careful not to make fun of St. Stewart - that really get's them upset.

    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Nawwh. Just like poking fun at them. They get in all a tizzy when you do. Take things so seriously. And be careful not to make fun of St. Stewart - that really get's them upset.

    :-)


    A Study came out today that 1 out of 10 consider Stewart and Colbert trusted news sources. They are ****ing comedians. That's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    A Study came out today that 1 out of 10 consider Stewart and Colbert trusted news sources. They are ****ing comedians. That's sad.
    more trustworthy than fox news ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
    they may be comedians but they do report and especially point out fox's rabid paranoia and insanity.

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    "I think Stewart’s show demonstrated the decline and vacuity of contemporary comedy. I cannot stand that smug, snarky, superior tone. I hated the fact that young people were getting their news through that filter of sophomoric snark. Comedy, to me, is one of the major modern genres, and the big influences on my generation were Lenny Bruce and Mort Sahl. Then Joan Rivers had an enormous impact on me–she’s one of my major role models. It’s the old caustic, confrontational style of Jewish comedy. It was Jewish comedians who turned stand-up from the old gag-meister shtick of vaudeville into a biting analysis of current social issues, and they really pushed the envelope. Lenny Bruce used stand-up to produce gasps and silence from the audience. And that’s my standard–a comedy of personal risk. And by that standard, I’m sorry, but Jon Stewart is not a major figure. He’s certainly a highly successful T.V. personality, but I think he has debased political discourse. I find nothing incisive in his work. As for his influence, if he helped produce the hackneyed polarization of moral liberals versus evil conservatives, then he’s partly at fault for the political stalemate in the United States."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    "I think Stewart’s show demonstrated the decline and vacuity of contemporary comedy. I cannot stand that smug, snarky, superior tone. I hated the fact that young people were getting their news through that filter of sophomoric snark. Comedy, to me, is one of the major modern genres, and the big influences on my generation were Lenny Bruce and Mort Sahl. Then Joan Rivers had an enormous impact on me–she’s one of my major role models. It’s the old caustic, confrontational style of Jewish comedy. It was Jewish comedians who turned stand-up from the old gag-meister shtick of vaudeville into a biting analysis of current social issues, and they really pushed the envelope. Lenny Bruce used stand-up to produce gasps and silence from the audience. And that’s my standard–a comedy of personal risk. And by that standard, I’m sorry, but Jon Stewart is not a major figure. He’s certainly a highly successful T.V. personality, but I think he has debased political discourse. I find nothing incisive in his work. As for his influence, if he helped produce the hackneyed polarization of moral liberals versus evil conservatives, then he’s partly at fault for the political stalemate in the United States."
    cool.
    that silliness won't stop me from liking him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    A Study came out today that 1 out of 10 consider Stewart and Colbert trusted news sources. They are ****ing comedians. That's sad.
    And probably the other 9 out of 10 (well like 8.9) consider CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, or other comedy channels to be news sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    For what it's worth, I also think she couldn't be more wrong regarding Jon Stewart.
    If she doesn't think Stewart if funny she has no sense of humor at all. He pokes fun at everyone, including himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    A Study came out today that 1 out of 10 consider Stewart and Colbert trusted news sources. They are ****ing comedians. That's sad.
    Their medium is comedy but that doesn't mean they can't be truthful.

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    Wow, just what this forum needs. Another discussion over what news sources are reliable and which ones aren't.

    I am more concerned over the accuracy of the content than who delivers the content
    and if they make me laugh in the process, so be it.

    Some of the laughs generated by Stewert are funny. Not ha-ha funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Wow, just what this forum needs. Another discussion over what news sources are reliable and which ones aren't.

    I am more concerned over the accuracy of the content than who delivers the content
    and if they make me laugh in the process, so be it.

    Some of the laughs generated by Stewert are funny. Not ha-ha funny
    Isn't the accuracy of the content directly related to which sources are reliable or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    more trustworthy than fox news ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
    they may be comedians but they do report and especially point out fox's rabid paranoia and insanity.
    We agree on something! :D

    Fox News is so blatantly disgusting, I simply can't understand how anyone can watch it without vomiting.

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