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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    Julio Teheran last 9GS (38ER)
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    Bartolo Colon last 9GS (36ER)
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    Luckily the pitching reinforcements are almost ready to go. The hope is that we have a replenishing supply of arms for the next 7 years. Not all going to be great but hopefully guys that can at least pitch at hte major league level.
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    We can all complain, but at least we aren't the Mets -- who actually had some sort of expectations and are notificably worse.

    The Braves are two decent pitchers away from a wild card birth. At least, I see it they way

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    So how good is Inciarte going to be? What does a peak Inciarte season look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So how good is Inciarte going to be? What does a peak Inciarte season look like?
    I don't know, because this power he's shown is surprising. I'd say .310 AVG, .360 OBP, 10-15 homers is absolute peak. But I doubt it happens lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So how good is Inciarte going to be? What does a peak Inciarte season look like?
    I think he will have a couple 5 to 6 win seasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think he will have a couple 5 to 6 win seasons
    Yuge to pair that with Freeman the next few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So how good is Inciarte going to be? What does a peak Inciarte season look like?
    110 WRC+ and +15-20 on defense. That would put him right under a 5 WAR season. That's probably his ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    110 WRC+ and +15-20 on defense. That would put him right under a 5 WAR season. That's probably his ceiling.
    I think his best seasons will look a lot like what we seeing now. The combination of his defense and hitting should make him a top 20 outfielder based on War for the next 3 to 4 years.

    If he is top 20 to 30 in war over the next few seasons Coppy. will look like a genius extending him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    I think his best seasons will look a lot like what we seeing now. The combination of his defense and hitting should make him a top 20 outfielder based on War for the next 3 to 4 years.

    If he is top 20 to 30 in war over the next few seasons Coppy. will look like a genius extending him.
    He will probably be ranked 25th-30th in fWAR after today.

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    I think Inciarte could be one of those guys who puts up one really monster season in his career and is above-average the rest of the time. He's a ball-in-play guy with some pop, so I could see a year when everything comes together and he hits .300-.315 with 15-20 HRs. I doubt he could do that consistently, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did it once.

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    Inciarte as a 4 war player makes sense to me. The problem is we have miscast him as a lead off guy. Should be in bottom third on a good team

    Adams looks amazing now. Wish he was a third baseman

    Wish we had lost some more games last year. I love Anderson but would much rather have senzel and have 3b sorted

    I hate Adonis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Inciarte as a 4 war player makes sense to me. The problem is we have miscast him as a lead off guy. Should be in bottom third on a good team

    Adams looks amazing now. Wish he was a third baseman

    Wish we had lost some more games last year. I love Anderson but would much rather have senzel and have 3b sorted

    I hate Adonis
    I think finding a real MLB 3rd baseman should be Coppy's main priority. Depending on a below average 31 year old to play 3rd is not going to get you to 82 wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    I think finding a real MLB 3rd baseman should be Coppy's main priority. Depending on a below average 31 year old to play 3rd is not going to get you to 82 wins.
    He's at Mississippi now. I think demeritte is gonna be that man

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    He's at Mississippi now. I think demeritte is gonna be that man
    I hope so. I can't wait to see him play at 3rd. I stay busy with travel through June so I haven't been able to make it to Trustmark Park very often. I look forward to July so I can start watching him and Acuna.

    I believe Demeritte is on pace to have one the best HR totals ever for the team. If he can hit 20 in MS he can probably hit 30 in ATL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    He's at Mississippi now. I think demeritte is gonna be that man
    Next year? Is he ready? Doesn't he only have like a 330 obp in aa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Next year? Is he ready? Doesn't he only have like a 330 obp in aa
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    I think finding a real MLB 3rd baseman should be Coppy's main priority. Depending on a below average 31 year old to play 3rd is not going to get you to 82 wins.
    They should get average production out of the position if they did a strict platoon with Garcia and Ruiz. But I don't believe our management is forward thinking enough for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Next year? Is he ready? Doesn't he only have like a 330 obp in aa
    He seems genuinely improved this year. I wouldn't be against a guy that plays really strong D, speed, and with power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    They should get average production out of the position if they did a strict platoon with Garcia and Ruiz. But I don't believe our management is forward thinking enough for that.
    Its funny, platoons are pretty old school.

    Give them a bit of time to see what they end up doing. It makes perfect sense to me to see how the platoon goes at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Inciarte as a 4 war player makes sense to me. The problem is we have miscast him as a lead off guy. Should be in bottom third on a good team

    Adams looks amazing now. Wish he was a third baseman

    Wish we had lost some more games last year. I love Anderson but would much rather have senzel and have 3b sorted

    I hate Adonis
    Inciarte has basically been a 4 WAR player for 3 years now. And depending on whether you prefer bWAR or fWAR, he's on pace for 4-6 WAR this year right now.

    As for Senzel, I agree with the sentiment that I would have loved to be able to draft him...but let's hold off on saying that would have solved 3B for us. He's only in A+ and having a solid but unspectacular year there so far. The K rate is higher than you would like, the BB rate is lower than you would like, and he's not showing a lot of pop. Demeritte is actually putting up very comparable results in AA and is less than a year older than Senzel. The scouting still says Senzel will be the better player, and he probably will be, but he's not a cinch to be a good MLB 3B.

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