Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
50PoundHead (06-18-2020), jpx7 (06-19-2020)
Buehler was drafted 24th by the Dodgers back in 2015. Here’s what genius dodger writer had to say.
“ Buehler is a slight pitcher from the right side. He stands 6’2 (allegedly) and a whopping 170 pounds. His frame suggests that he might not be cut out for the rotation long-term.... His delivery is a little more high-effort than is preferred for a pitcher. That, coupled with his frame give some evaluators pause.... This is a solid pick. It isn’t the pick I would have made, but it isn’t a bad pick — this isn’t Chris Reed we’re talking about. He has the floor of a late-inning reliever with two potentially plus-pitches (think Chris Withrow). At absolute best, he’s a No. 2 starter. Realistically, he’s a No. 3 or 4 starter if he reaches his potential. He should sign for around slot value.”
That guy was wrong.
My hope was that the Braves saw something nobody else had time to see. Maybe that’s what happened. Maybe AA brought over some special sauce from LA in evaluating late picks.
50PoundHead (06-18-2020), jpx7 (06-19-2020)
I'm curious if Elder signs for that. He's not a high-ceiling guy, but he's one of those guys a team could draft relatively early in 2021 and net considerable bonus pool savings and still pay him more than what he's slated to get here. If the Braves were determined on Elder, the Strider signing at slot is all the more surprising, but I honestly don't know if another $100,000 gets it done if Elder is truly a tough sign.
jpx7 (06-19-2020)
jpx7 (06-19-2020)
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jpx7 (06-19-2020)
I was talking more about if they had gone under slot with Strider and used some of that on Elder. I just spitballed an extra $100,000 to add to the approximately $1.2 clvclv has estimated as available to sign him. I should have been more clear.
I agree if they don't sign Elder, it's a real misstep.
Last edited by 50PoundHead; 06-19-2020 at 09:32 AM.
jpx7 (06-19-2020)
IIRC, the number needed to sign him that was floated after he was picked was something in the $600,000-$700,000 range. Don't recall whether that was during the draft coverage or in one of the multitude of stories and blurbs we've run across since, but that number sticks out as something I recall floated from somewhere for sure.
The $1,187,390 is slightly more than slot for the Twins' pick at #59 at the end of the 2nd round.
If that's not enough to get it done, Elder's not being particularly realistic IMO. If almost ANYBODY thought more of him than that, someone else would've taken him - there's little doubt other teams had more flexibility to fit him within their pools.
Last edited by clvclv; 06-19-2020 at 10:29 AM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
jpx7 (06-21-2020)
5th-rder Bryce Elder signs with @Braves for $850k (slot 156 value = $336,600). Texas RHP, one of best sliders in @MLBDraft, also has low-90s sinker, ability to manipulate breaking ball into a curve and effective changeup. High-floor guy. @MLBDraft
50PoundHead (06-20-2020), clvclv (06-20-2020), Freshmaker (06-20-2020), jpx7 (06-21-2020), Tapate50 (06-20-2020)
So 300k or so gone forever with no one to give it to. Strange. Wonder if we were trying to save money as an organization this draft? That’s scary.
Finally got around to watching video on Shuster and his short arm delivery from the left side reminds me of a pitcher, but I can’t remember who. I think he was also left handed, and almost seemed to have his wrist half cocked as he threw. This is going to drive me crazy.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
jpx7 (06-21-2020)
Kinda reminds me of Sid Fernandez who pitched for the Mets.