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    John Sickel's Top 200 Prospect List

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/...or-league-ball


    3. Swanson
    10. Albies
    26. Allard
    57. Soroka
    58. Newcomb
    61. Fried
    68. Acuna
    89. Anderson
    98. Maitan
    123. Touki
    149. Riley
    159. Wentz
    183. Pache


    he had Gohara in our top 10, so he must have missed him on his list (this would give us 10 top 100 and 14 top 200)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravos4evr View Post
    he had Gohara in our top 10, so he must have missed him on his list (this would give us 10 top 100 and 14 top 200)
    Per the comments:

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    Gohara fell in a record-keeping gap because of the trade. I fixed it.

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    That's a staggering number of top 200 prospects.

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    comments on Maitan #98


    COMMENT: Maitan is the difficult slotting here. If you go by pure tools, he should be in the Top 50, or the Top 20, or even in the Top 10. But he hasn’t played yet, he turned 17 yesterday, and this is a hybrid list between pure upside and present ability. We have no idea how his marvelous tools will translate into a professional environment until he gets a chance to show us. If you are looking for long-term upside as opposed to a short or medium term horizon, bump him way up the list.

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    just a loaded system right now.

    Lots of guys outside that top-200 that are still pretty exciting, kids like Muller, Jackson, and Cruz.

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    break down by team

    Angels 2
    Astros 9
    Athletics 8
    Blue Jays 7
    Braves 14
    Brewers 10
    Cardinals 10
    Cubs 8
    Diamondbacks 4
    Dodgers 10
    Giants 6
    Indians 10
    Mariners 5
    Marlins 1
    Mets 8
    Nationals 3
    Orioles 3
    Padres 9
    Phillies 7
    Pirates 6
    Rangers 4
    Rays 11
    Red Sox 3
    Reds 6
    Rockies 7
    Royals 3
    Tigers 2
    Twins 6
    White Sox 9
    Yankees 10

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    So we have 14, and the Rays are the only other team with more than 10? Even then, six of the Rays prospects on the list are from 162-200.

    We have 14 and the rest of the NL East combines for 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    So we have 14, and the Rays are the only other team with more than 10? Even then, six of the Rays prospects on the list are from 162-200.

    We have 14 and the rest of the NL East combines for 19.
    The Marlins have ONE in the top-200, and he's 158th..........UUUGH - that's barren. Like their farm system is in the dust-bowl.

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    so Braves traded #187 Povse and MLB pitcher Whalen for NOT RANKED Alex Jackson because we hope to make him a catcher?

    Man, I still don't like that trade.

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    I would have though Demeritte played well enough in the AFL, same with Peterson, to be noticeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    break down by team

    Angels 2
    Astros 9
    Athletics 8
    Blue Jays 7
    Braves 14
    Brewers 10
    Cardinals 10
    Cubs 8
    Diamondbacks 4
    Dodgers 10
    Giants 6
    Indians 10
    Mariners 5
    Marlins 1
    Mets 8
    Nationals 3
    Orioles 3
    Padres 9
    Phillies 7
    Pirates 6
    Rangers 4
    Rays 11
    Red Sox 3
    Reds 6
    Rockies 7
    Royals 3
    Tigers 2
    Twins 6
    White Sox 9
    Yankees 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    so Braves traded #187 Povse and MLB pitcher Whalen for NOT RANKED Alex Jackson because we hope to make him a catcher?

    Man, I still don't like that trade.
    I get the upside of Jackson, sometimes you have to swing for the fences.

    But I think I'd rather have Povse/Whalen. I like Povse quite a bit.

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    Bravesfanmatt just making your list a little easier to read.

    Braves 14
    Rays 11
    Indians 10
    Astros 9
    Brewers 10
    Cardinals 10
    Yankees 10
    Dodgers 10
    White Sox 9
    Padres 9
    Cubs 8
    Mets 8
    Athletics 8
    Blue Jays 7
    Phillies 7
    Rockies 7
    Twins 6
    Giants 6
    Reds 6
    Pirates 6
    Mariners 5
    Diamondbacks 4
    Rangers 4
    Nationals 3
    Orioles 3
    Red Sox 3
    Royals 3
    Tigers 2
    Angels 2
    Marlins 1

    NL East
    Braves - 14
    Mets - 8
    Phillies - 7
    Nats - 3
    Marlins - 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Preacher View Post
    I get the upside of Jackson, sometimes you have to swing for the fences.

    But I think I'd rather have Povse/Whalen. I like Povse quite a bit.
    yeah, I do too. Maybe we get him straight.. but I liked both pitchers we gave up.

    -thanks for the edit. I used an excel spread sheet to drop a pivot and didn't do any editing for this page.

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    exactly. hoping to make a guy a catcher in exchange for a pitching prospect with several very unique qualities, not the least of which being that he doesn't walk batters.

    only thing i can figure is that the braves know something about the dh about to be implemented in the nl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipchildress View Post
    exactly. hoping to make a guy a catcher in exchange for a pitching prospect with several very unique qualities, not the least of which being that he doesn't walk batters.

    only thing i can figure is that the braves know something about the dh about to be implemented in the nl.
    I just think there are so many IFs with Jackson.

    IF Jackson can play catcher
    IF Jackson's attitude issues are a thing of the past
    IF Jackson can get his bat on track
    IF Jackson can stay healthy
    IF Jackson can get out of A-Ball

    Pitchers have their own inherent risk, but I like the floor on Povse, I didn't like the trade.

    BUT....... if the Braves can get Jackson straightened out and IF he can play catcher, yea Coppy is going to look like a genius here and everybody is going to wonder how we landed a power hitting backstop for a mid-level arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    break down by team

    Angels 2
    Astros 9
    Athletics 8
    Blue Jays 7
    Braves 14
    Brewers 10
    Cardinals 10
    Cubs 8
    Diamondbacks 4
    Dodgers 10
    Giants 6
    Indians 10
    Mariners 5
    Marlins 1
    Mets 8
    Nationals 3
    Orioles 3
    Padres 9
    Phillies 7
    Pirates 6
    Rangers 4
    Rays 11
    Red Sox 3
    Reds 6
    Rockies 7
    Royals 3
    Tigers 2
    Twins 6
    White Sox 9
    Yankees 10
    Looks like Cards, Rays, Dodgers and Indians might have to be included in my overall value calculations. Will be interesting to see how these teams line up behind the Braves in total farm system value.

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    Cards seem to always have a top farm system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Cards seem to always have a top farm system.
    Thats what happens when you cheat.
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    I like this list the best of any I've seen, not because the Braves have so many top prospects, but more where everyone is ranked. I like Maitan being lower than most places had him. I think it's silly to put him as high as some have when he hasn't played a game yet. Same with Anderson. He's played but doesn't have near enough of a track record to put him higher than he his here. I like the aggressive rankings for Allard and Soroka. I think they deserve to be there. And I like how Newcomb hasn't fallen as low as some have him. Still think he should be a bit higher than he is though.

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