With Hart still overseeing baseball ops per Sherman and Bowman.
With Hart still overseeing baseball ops per Sherman and Bowman.
I guess they had to announce this since JS jumped the gun last night.
Dalyn (10-01-2015), jpx7 (10-01-2015), The Chosen One (10-01-2015)
I'm assuming this doesn't actually change any of the decision-making processes. Probably just a way of guaranteeing Coppolella doesn't bolt for one of the open GM positions.
I do wonder what the transition plan is. Hart made it pretty clear this is a short-term thing for him. One more year with the dynamic duo arrangement, then Coppolella gets full authority come 2017? Does Hart stay on as "President of Baseball Operations" in a kind of emeritus role?
No, it doesn't sound like anything will be different, but I thought I'd at least post it since I didn't see it.
Hart was already named president of baseball ops today. So I figure the decision-making process will stay exactly the same for the next 2-3 years, with Coppolella doing a lot of the GM work but answering to Hart. Hart has been the guy setting strategy, but Coppy has already been pulling a lot of the specific strings on these moves.Originally Posted by MadduxFanII
Agree with this. Would not be surprised if one or more teams requested an interview, which forced the Braves' hand. I'm not sure he's ready to handle the media relations part of the job independently, but am more or less pleased with this decision.
We cool.
jpx7 (10-01-2015), zbhargrove (10-01-2015)
Wasn't he GM without the title anyway? This changes nothing as far personnel decisions go.
So it was Coppy that made the Heyward, Upton, Kimbrel, Olivera, Gattis trades.
Forever Fredi
If Coppy had a heavy hand in many of the moves we made, i'm not nearly as confident in him as I was this time last year
bravesnumberone (10-01-2015), Prikichi (10-01-2015)
I hope he gets a raise and a better team.
jpx7 (10-01-2015)
Honestly, I don't think we have any real sense of the credit/blame breakdown between Hart and Coppolella for the individual deals that we're made. Did Hart make them all with Coppolella's advice? Did Hart say, "Gotta re-build- trade these guys," then Coppolella made every deal from the ground up? No idea.
One thing I try to avoid is the temptation to attribute every deal I like to Coppolella and every move I dislike to Hart. I don't much like Hart, and I didn't much like the decision to make him The Decider last winter, while Coppolella is the kind of young, analytics-savvy GM I'm inclined to support anyway, so it's really tempting to say, "Coppolella is obviously responsible for the Gattis and Touissant trades, while Hart was the jerk who traded Heyward and Alex Wood." I try not to do that.
Last edited by MadduxFanII; 10-01-2015 at 02:49 PM.
the wording from the Braves
makes it obvious we are punting next year too
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cajunrevenge (10-01-2015), jpx7 (10-01-2015)
sometimes you have to punt when it is 4th down.
Its not wrong to be punting but they still have to sell tickets which means they have to atleast pretend like we have a chance. Judging by this year some people will buy it and get real upset around July next year.
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no chance we are this bad next year. Barring a rash of injuries, our talent level will be much better.. plus we won't sell off many pieces next July.. Bourn/Swisher/Grilli are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head..
I hope so, I'd rather be fully loaded when we come after Washington, I mean the Mets.
Ivermectin Man
Coppolella is savvy enough with the analytical stuff to know its limitations. He is grounded in scouting. It's really a great mix of both. You need to use the analytics, but there are limitations to what those tell you. The most important thing is listening to your scouts. That's where Frank Wren failed. The Braves have a great scouting staff lead by Brian Bridges and Roy Clark. If they tell you someone is a 5 tool guy, you don't need to run some regression analysis to support it. You go with it.
BedellBrave (10-03-2015)
I think to a point scouting is best used to build your farm and maybe find players at the MLB level with a little tweaking that can take it to the next level. Advanced stats, etc are best used on making decisions on MLB talent where we essentially know the player that they are. There is a time and place for both. Ignoring either is what leads to mistakes.
So in looking at the trades and other moves the Braves have made in the past year is there a theme or analytical signature that distinguishes our front office. I'm not saying that every move has to display this signature, but broadly speaking.
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