Willing to bet that AA is already rolling up his sleeves to do his job, which is to help make this a competitive club within a reasonable span of time. The safe betting is that he either doesn't bother much with here, Talking Chop, Twitter and the comments sections at MLBTR with the "oh, woe is me" posts. A man accepts reality, the challenge put before him with whatever constraints. A boy sits around and cries all day on message boards.Originally Posted by TheBravos
Twins have a lot of pitching in the minors and are in FA/trade market for elite guys (big players on Darvish and Ohtani both). Don't have the elite arms of Atlanta (yet), but the depth in that system is very impressive. Most likely a top 10 system most places when all is said and done this offseason.
Gus: You don't know anything about scouting.
Johnny: Don't tell them that.
Not any interest in moving Rooker right now most likely. The team will lose #75 if they sign anyone. MLB would likely block a deal for the pick. Also, Hughes is most likely not going to pitch until midseason.
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Johnny: Don't tell them that.
jpx7 (11-27-2017)
Perhaps, but not to trade back any prospects of note. Perhaps a team that'd take Kemp by sending back a guy like Tom Hackimer and the Braves would eat everything but $5-10M per season of his contract. Adams doesn't make sense, though.
Gus: You don't know anything about scouting.
Johnny: Don't tell them that.
I'd wager plenty of 300K contracts go out the next two seasons (Braves do have a significant amount of money left and could be players to teams interested in signing their players by trading their money, ironically).
Then as the $10K restrictions hit, I'd wager every dollar of that gets traded away for prospects. The Orioles really have not played that exchange well, but the White Sox just got an MLB-quality reliever with triple digit velo in exchange for less than a million of space. That's something a good GM will be able to do all day those last two years as the $10K limits are in place.
Gus: You don't know anything about scouting.
Johnny: Don't tell them that.
First rico and now you have said this, but as a Minnesotan who marginally follows the Twins I'm not seeing the quality depth that you guys cite. Gonsalves will likely be a stud and they did well in getting Littell for Garcia. Romero and Jorge also did well in AA as starters and will likely be a big leaguers and Moya probably fits into their long-term plans in the bullpen. But other than that, the Twins have a lot of old-for-classification guys with very limited ceilings and some injured guys--especially Jay and Burdi--who need to recover (and could be something if they do recover). On top of that, the Twins haven't done that well developing guys internally.
They traded Kintzler thinking they were ready to pack it in and then played their best baseball of the season, but they are really short at the back of the bullpen and Vizcaino may be a fit there.
jpx7 (11-27-2017)
Only one year with $10k limit in place, though, right? The second signing-period year is bonus-pool halved.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
Actually a little boy insults anyone that doesn’t agree with him. Of course we can navigate it, but acting like it’s “no big deal”, is moronic. What a dick comment....
Don't remember saying it was "no big deal." Twisting words because you're angry and aggrieved...well, hopefully online venting helps lessen the blow. Incidentally, it was me who raised scepticism about the new "sour grapes" attititude toward Maitan, which was only one day before the official announcment.
The new regime accepted the punishment, but have a job a job to do. As for the fans, there's been 2 months to prepare for the inevitable.
Last edited by Knucksie; 11-27-2017 at 11:35 AM.
Nah, why pay big prospect value for something they have in spades already as far as a hard-throwing reliever goes. The team has velocity available. That's never been the issue.
I think you need to look harder at the system. The Twins arguably have the best relief corps of any minor league system in baseball, have one of the best middle infield systems in the game currently, and then they pop up a guy like Brusdar Graterol who will be getting some love on your "fringe" top 100 lists this offseason while the mainstream guys are not quite ready to be bold enough to put him up there, but by midseason next year, he'll be making leaps up the top 100. Guys like that scour their system. You can find plenty of guys like LaMonte Wade, who profiles as a premium corner defender with excellent leadoff skills, and he's not even in their top 10 (or top 20 in many cases), in spite of being in AAA to open 2018 most likely. Perhaps part of it is simply just not knowing names and scouting stat lines...
Gus: You don't know anything about scouting.
Johnny: Don't tell them that.
Correct, and the incorrect reporting that the $10K limit season is a 0 bonus year should also disappear from the lexicon as well.
Then again, most people still think the Braves got punished for what they did with the 2016-2017 signing class, so understanding the details of the international penalties is not surprisingly going misunderstood.
Gus: You don't know anything about scouting.
Johnny: Don't tell them that.
For the record, I do more than look at stat lines. I read the scouting press with regularity. I don't have the same access that you do and I don't get to eyeball the players in real time, so you have me there.
As for the Twins, their top five is really impressive. Lewis and Gordon will likely be stars at the big league level and Gonsalves may be a top of the rotation guy. I think the rest of their top ten is pretty solid, but I don't see that much after that. Wade is a decent prospect and if he shows he can be a decent part-time guy in CF, he probably projects as a good 4th OF who could be more in the right situation.
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