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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    I hear you man!!! But to tell you the truth, if we're going to have to have this happen anyway, it might as well be now as half way into the season. Surely there are some other options out there to either back up or go along with Dak that might not be there in late October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    By what I defined a draft bust as, sure. Most draft picks especially first round picks a team should expect to get more than three seasons out of that player.
    Your definition of a bust is in the minority than. A young player who performs at a high level than has his career fall short because of an injury or death isn't a bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    He's been an OC for 8 years now and done remarkable things in Houston and Washington. Even in Cleveland, they resembled a half way decent offense, if I remember right. I guess Ryan was a little worse in 15 than he was 13, but his 2015 and 2013 seasons are pretty much equal.
    His top wideout that year was Harry Douglas and his running back was fat Michael Turner, FWIW.

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    Here's my opinion on Matt Ryan. He's really good at helping a player's performance match their potential, but he struggles making guys look better than they are which is what Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. always excelled.

    At this point Ryan is what he is. He's an excellent quarterback that is going to help you win the exact number of games that your roster is built to win, but he's not going to help you win much more than that. Hopefully the Falcons have a 10 win roster this year, but I kind of doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Here's my opinion on Matt Ryan. He's really good at helping a player's performance match their potential, but he struggles making guys look better than they are which is what Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. always excelled.

    At this point Ryan is what he is. He's an excellent quarterback that is going to help you win the exact number of games that your roster is built to win, but he's not going to help you win much more than that. Hopefully the Falcons have a 10 win roster this year, but I kind of doubt it.
    He's not Manning, Brady, or Rodgers, if he was then I'd be pooping my pants. but to counter your point about not making players better, Harry Douglas 2013. From a dink and dunk number 3 who rarely saw the ball to a 1000 yard receiver. Devin Hester in 2014 posting his arguable best receiver stats of any season at 32. (he had 2 Bear seasons with more yards, but he was targetted a heck of a lot more and 2014 had his best catch% by a healthy margin)

    I disagree as well that Ryan won't win you more than the roster dictates. I think Ryan can't win more than the defense dictates though. Ryan to me is certainly a QB who would benefit from a top notch defense on the other side. Kind of similar to Russell Wilson he's a very smart QB who doesn't make a lot of mistakes unless he has to try to win the game on his own. The Packers playoff game was a great example. It wans't until the very end of the second half that Ryan struggled at all because up until then the game was manageable. After it became clear that Atlanta couldn't legally stop Aaron Rodgers, he pressed more and made more mistakes. I think his ability to deliver in close games though is second to few QBs.

    What I'd compare Ryan to as far as general ranking even if their style of QBing is totally different is Tony Romo.
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    My pre week 1 power rankings:

    32. Browns
    31. 49ers
    30. Rams
    29. Lions
    28. Eagles
    27. Bears
    26. Titans
    25. Chargers
    24. Dolphins
    23. Cowboys
    22. Buccaneers
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    18. Ravens
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    16. Saints
    15. Falcons
    14. Raiders
    13. Jets
    12. Colts
    11. Redskins
    10. Vikings
    9. Bengals
    8. Chiefs
    7. Broncos
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    5. Seahawks
    4. Panthers
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    2. Patriots
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    The Falcons two LB draftees from this spring have earned starting jobs. Will make us a heckuva lot faster for sure. Growing pains will be part of it but it speaks well that they are already showing well.

    Im optimistic we can be pretty effective on offense, and the defense will take a few steps further.
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    Here goes nothing.

    Packers/Vikings(WC-2)/Bears/Lions
    Cardinals/Seahawks(WC-1)/Rams/49ers
    Panthers/Bucs/Falcons/Saints
    Cowboys/Redskins/Giants/Eagles

    Steelers/Bengals(WC-1)/Ravens/Browns
    Patriots/Jets/Bills/Dolphins
    Chiefs/Broncos(WC-2)/Raiders/Chargers
    Colts/Texans/Jaguars/Titans

    NFC championship: Packers over Panthers
    AFC championship: Patriots over Steelers

    Super Bowl: Packers over Patriots. We all deserve a Rodgers-Brady Super Bowl.

    Falcons: 6-10 with wins over Saints, Bucs, Eagles, 49ers, Rams and Chargers.
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    My picks for winners

    AFC East
    Pats
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    Bills

    AFC North
    Steelers
    Bengals
    Ravens
    Browns

    AFC South
    Colts
    Texans
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    AFC West
    Chiefs
    Chargers
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    Raiders

    Wild cards are Bengals and Jets

    NFC East
    Giants
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    Cowboys
    Eagles (seriosuly this division is a tossup overall)

    NFC North
    Packers
    VIkings
    Bears
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    NFC South
    Falcons
    Panthers
    Bucs
    Saints

    NFC West
    Seahawks
    49ers
    Cardinals
    Rams

    Niners get the WC with some chip kelly magic, as do the Panthers.

    NFC Championship is Packers over Seahawks
    AFC Championship is Chiefs over Pats

    Andy Reid gets his first superbowl.
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    Hell of a way to start the season. Great game.

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    Just like last year the Bronco's didn't need a real QB to beat the Panthers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Just like last year the Bronco's didn't need a real QB to beat the Panthers.


    Nope. Just some clearly missed personal fouls that should have been called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Nope. Just some clearly missed personal fouls that should have been called.
    Well they still won the game. Still don't have a legit QB. So my point still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Nope. Just some clearly missed personal fouls that should have been called.
    Goes both ways, they held Von Miller every down and he didn't whine about it. He had his helmet jerked a few times, collared held, surprise no one ganked him in the process of holding him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Goes both ways, they held Von Miller every down and he didn't whine about it. He had his helmet jerked a few times, collared held, surprise no one ganked him in the process of holding him.


    Holding could probably be called on 95 percent of plays in football. Blatant hits to the head is a different thing all together. It's just another long line in the list of things wrong with the NFL. I am not a fan of Cam although I have come around on him a lot. If that were Brady or Brees they are whistles for sure. Cam gets looked at differently because of his size. Think like Shaq how the officials completely changed the way they called fouls for him.

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    Oh my God, the Falcons got burned 3-4 times in the secondary on that first drive. Good thing Winston overthrew.

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