We have to lose the game. What a meaningless win it would be.
We have to lose the game. What a meaningless win it would be.
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It's been awhile since we've seen the elephant. I thought Donald Trump jr. might have nailed him.
Which is part of the problem with this team. Folty has shown flashes but just can't be consistent. If Folty or Newk can't be a consistent 2-3 WAR guy then the first wave of pitching prospects has completely failed us which kicks the time table of contention down the road even further.
jpx7 (08-13-2017)
I missed the game today. How did Kelly, the Cards catcher, look?
Since the Cards gave Molina a longer contract, I am wondering if they may trade Kelly.
What's best about Phillips is that he is essentially free this year.
He predictably rebounded somewhat from his poor defensive season last year but he is losing range at 2B. He's played good defense so far at 3B so hopefully that would continue. The problem really is going to be his offense. He's going to be a mid to high 90 WRC+ hitter. As a stop gap in rebuilding years that's not really a problem but I would hope for something better out of that spot eventually.
I would say the failure of any of these pitchers to become more than 1-2 win guys is THE problem with the rebuild. I really thought Folty would make big strides this year, but he is proving to be a "stuff #4" that everyone keeps dreaming on to be be much more.
If a team pours the majority of their player acquisition resources into acquiring pitchers, and none of them turn out to be better than 4/5 or AAAA guys, how can that team ever expect to contend?
During the rebuild, the Braves have seen the following Top 50-1000 prospects fail at the MLB level: Jenkins, Blair, Wisler, while guys like Newk and Folty are showing they likely won't have the control to succeed, and guys like Sims and Fried simply don't have the stuff to succeed. They have had zero pitching prospects shownthey are ready to be impactful SPs at the MLB level.
That's 0 for 7 by my count.
The failure rate of these pitchers has been so staggeringly bad the FO is considering moving elite positional talent to acquire proven SPs. That is a monumental failure no matter how someone tries to spin it.
They should have been building around position prospects and let other organizations deal with the attrition of pitching prospects.
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jpx7 (08-13-2017)
jpx7 (08-13-2017)
Yes 3+ is what I have in mind. If we have two 3+ guys, the rest of the rotation can be around 2 and the starting pitching would be good enough for a contending team.
Ranking by most likely to be a 3+ win starter for multiple years: Soroka, Gohara, Wright, Folty, Allard, Anderson, Newcomb.
Last edited by nsacpi; 08-13-2017 at 10:54 PM.
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