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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Being skeptical of the North Koreans is practical and necessary - but denying that significant progress has been made here (even if you don't want to give credit to the Trump administration) is kind of a fool's errand.
    You think progress is being made toward denuclearizing (not sure if this is a word) N Korea? Or some other sort of progress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    You think progress is being made toward denuclearizing (not sure if this is a word) N Korea? Or some other sort of progress?
    I don't think "abolishing" Punggye-ri is necessarily 'progress' toward denuclearization, but rather more positive signaling and progress in normalizing diplomatic relations between the North and everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I don't think "abolishing" Punggye-ri is necessarily 'progress' toward denuclearization, but rather more positive signaling and progress in normalizing diplomatic relations between the North and everyone else.
    I wonder what they expect to get in return for behaving in a more normal manner. Some sanctions are in place due to their nuclear and ballistic programs. Others are in place due to prisoners being held, attacks against various targets, etc. When was the last time they killed someone outside their borders or harmed a non-citizen in their custody?

    I will leave aside the treatment of their own people, which is a non-trivial matter.

    I do allow for some small possibility Kim Jong Un could evolve into a Gorbachev type figure. Very small. But still worth keeping an open mind. However, it seems to me the onus is on him to show his bona fides.

    And whether Trump realizes it or not, his meeting with Kim is a yuge diplomatic coup for Kim. Surely something needs to be extracted in return. Something significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It's not worth it. The left has made up their mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    You think progress is being made toward denuclearizing (not sure if this is a word) N Korea? Or some other sort of progress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    I wonder what Pompeo promised them.
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    Or Kim will tell his State Media that the Oppressors have bowed to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever Fredi View Post
    Or Kim will tell his State Media that the Oppressors have bowed to him.
    The North Korean spin is their nuclear and ballistic programs have made the advances they needed and they can freeze/shutter things for now. And it aint entirely spin.
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    The reaction from the left to this historic event is all too predictable. What a shame that the hatred has gotten so deep rooted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The reaction from the left to this historic event is all too predictable. What a shame that the hatred has gotten so deep rooted.
    What is a shame is that Forever Trumpsters are so desperate for anything that resembles a Trump victory that they will believe the claims of a guy who says he had 14 holes in one in one round of golf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    What is a shame is that Forever Trumpsters are so desperate for anything that resembles a Trump victory that they will believe the claims of a guy who says he had 14 holes in one in one round of golf.
    Desperate for a victory?

    ISIS
    China willing to actually engage in free trade
    Actually deporting criminal gangs like MS-13
    Actual peace talks with North Korea
    Modernization of Islam in the hotbed of radicalization
    Economy roaring / Wages Increasing
    401k Portfolios appreciating
    Supreme court justice
    Federal judges
    Taking less of my earnings

    Need I go on? What world are you living in? This is not even 2 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Desperate for a victory?

    ISIS
    China willing to actually engage in free trade
    Actually deporting criminal gangs like MS-13
    Actual peace talks with North Korea
    Modernization of Islam in the hotbed of radicalization
    Economy roaring / Wages Increasing
    401k Portfolios appreciating
    Supreme court justice
    Federal judges
    Taking less of my earnings

    Need I go on? What world are you living in? This is not even 2 years.
    You forgot brainwashing a significant section of the electorate into believing his wildly ridiculous exaggerations of greatness. Give the economy another year to settle into Trump's moves.

    I can't wait to hear of Trump bragging to Kim Jong Un about all his holes in ones.
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    So you make a claim that those of us that voted for Trump or support his policies are 'desperate' for a victory making the implication that we have been delivered nothing at this time. I give you a list of impressive accomplishments in less than 2 years and your response is to ignore them.

    You want another year now after a year ago you said the economy would crumble within a year? What will you say next year when as predicted by a substantial amount of economists that this engine will be running smoothly? And if China actually practices free trade in the future? Do realize what that will do for a our deficit? The budget will be slashed away eventually when all these surpluses from entitlement programs are identified. You know becuase of all these 'actual' jobs that people are getting resulting in a drastic decrease in welfare requests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So you make a claim that those of us that voted for Trump or support his policies are 'desperate' for a victory making the implication that we have been delivered nothing at this time. I give you a list of impressive accomplishments in less than 2 years and your response is to ignore them.

    You want another year now after a year ago you said the economy would crumble within a year? What will you say next year when as predicted by a substantial amount of economists that this engine will be running smoothly? And if China actually practices free trade in the future? Do realize what that will do for a our deficit? The budget will be slashed away eventually when all these surpluses from entitlement programs are identified. You know becuase of all these 'actual' jobs that people are getting resulting in a drastic decrease in welfare requests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    you are so deeply head-over-heels for the guy it makes me blush
    I'm head-over-heels for an administration that is delivering results that closely align with my ideological desires.

    Deny that results all you want. FOcus on the trash fake collusion conspiracy or all the hookers he ****ed. But deep down you know the good that is happening in the US and around the world as a result of a drastic change in approach from the last administration. You are way too smart not to see this. You'll never admit it and I get that but I think thats a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    I wonder what Pompeo promised them.
    From what I gather Rocket man just wants a meeting with a current US President and to take a photo of them together smiling. Ridiculous that we were letting a photo op get in the way of global security.
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