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    A massive payroll is a big advantage for a smart front office, but I don't really think its the advantage that it used to be for some of the dumber ones. If I had to choose between a team with a massive payroll and a team that was great at amateur signing/drafting, player development, trading, and relentlessly pursuing value, then I would choose the latter every time.

    I think teams like the Phillies have made some major missteps with their stupid money and its gonna prevent them from having the extensive window that I see us having. Outside of a few teams like the Dodgers and Yankees, I don't think there are many teams in a better position for the future than us, the Rays, and maybe the Padres.

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    I think its more of an advantage now because the big market teams aren't as incompetent as they used to be.



    But since it's not an advantage I think Baseball should institute a salary cap and give the Dodgers, Yankees, and Red Sox half the salary cap of other teams. Since it's not an unfair advantage.
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    Anything can happen with pitching of course but I'm just not sure how you can project out any season for the next 5 without the Braves being 90+ wins.

    There is just so much stupid young talent which provides so much financial flexibility to round out the roster with good players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Anything can happen with pitching of course but I'm just not sure how you can project out any season for the next 5 without the Braves being 90+ wins.

    There is just so much stupid young talent which provides so much financial flexibility to round out the roster with good players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    A massive payroll is a big advantage for a smart front office, but I don't really think its the advantage that it used to be for some of the dumber ones. If I had to choose between a team with a massive payroll and a team that was great at amateur signing/drafting, player development, trading, and relentlessly pursuing value, then I would choose the latter every time.

    I think teams like the Phillies have made some major missteps with their stupid money and its gonna prevent them from having the extensive window that I see us having. Outside of a few teams like the Dodgers and Yankees, I don't think there are many teams in a better position for the future than us, the Rays, and maybe the Padres.
    I dont want a 200 mil payroll, because then AA could make some stupid decisions.

    I'd hope to be around the 160 mark. But i'm also not sure what moves he is gonna do unless he keeps trying to lock up some of our young talent this winter like Swanson, Riley, maybe Soroka. I could lowkey see him go after a veteran rotation piece on a 3 year deal. With Pache/Waters on the way, not sure what he does with the outfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    8=======D
    I know alot of people make fun of AA for that comment but the Braves actually do have alot of financial flexibility moving forward. Especially with how Albies/Acuna's contracts are going forward.

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    I can't remember a better stretch of offense from a Braves team. 82 runs in their last 9 games, 124 this month, in 16 games. It's craziness! Literally everyone in the lineup is on a hot streak at the same time.

    I'm not sure how the offense will stack up over the course of the year, but there definitely is no hole in the lineup right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerfherders View Post
    I can't remember a better stretch of offense from a Braves team. 82 runs in their last 9 games, 124 this month, in 16 games. It's craziness! Literally everyone in the lineup is on a hot streak at the same time.

    I'm not sure how the offense will stack up over the course of the year, but there definitely is no hole in the lineup right now.
    beware, tho: this how is how people were saying the Phillies looked the first few weeks of the season. sometimes everyone is hitting or sequencing is super lucky at the same time.

    i think the Braves legitimately have a better, deeper offense than Philly. but still wise to be cautiously optimistic, overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    beware, tho: this how is how people were saying the Phillies looked the first few weeks of the season. sometimes everyone is hitting or sequencing is super lucky at the same time.

    i think the Braves legitimately have a better, deeper offense than Philly. but still wise to be cautiously optimistic, overall.
    their problem was paying 300 million to bruce hooper. The Braves have 5 players with the same or better fWAR than him. And that number goes to 9 when looking at bWAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    beware, tho: this how is how people were saying the Phillies looked the first few weeks of the season. sometimes everyone is hitting or sequencing is super lucky at the same time.

    i think the Braves legitimately have a better, deeper offense than Philly. but still wise to be cautiously optimistic, overall.
    Braves lineup is alot more balanced than theirs is.

    They had a good top 5 with Cutch, Segura, Harper, JTR and Hoskins. And JTR has to rest because he's a catcher, and now Cutch is gone. Bruce magic will cool off.

    Our worse hitters are Nick, Riley, and Flowers/Mac, everyone is a threat in the lineup. You have some guys you can pitch around and get to in the Phillies lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    their problem was paying 300 million to bruce hooper. The Braves have 5 players with the same or better fWAR than him. And that number goes to 9 when looking at bWAR.
    his defensive WAR is starting to fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    his defensive WAR is starting to fall
    Donaldson:
    1.5 fWAR
    1.9 bWAR

    Harper:
    1.5 fWAR
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    That brings a smile to my face

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    their problem was paying 300 million to bruce hooper. The Braves have 5 players with the same or better fWAR than him. And that number goes to 9 when looking at bWAR.
    Lol, bWAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Donaldson:
    1.5 fWAR
    1.9 bWAR

    Harper:
    1.5 fWAR
    0.5 bWAR

    That brings a smile to my face
    stupid money is as stupid money does
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    Weak division and a strong line up right now are good things for the Braves. Once again the Phillies are looking like 2
    pump chumps and the Nationals are a complete joke. Braves should take advantage of this and have a double digit lead before the trade deadline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Weak division and a strong line up right now are good things for the Braves. Once again the Phillies are looking like 2
    pump chumps and the Nationals are a complete joke. Braves should take advantage of this and have a double digit lead before the trade deadline.
    that would be bad for attendance
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    that would be bad for attendance
    But school is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Lol, bWAR.
    I much prefer bWAR for position players. Only because I find DRS slightly less useless as UZR.

    The first site to incorporate stat cast into their WAR projections wins the glory.

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