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    After watching this post season....does it really matter?

    We had plenty enough talent to win it. We had bad luck. Nats had good luck. I watched a 107 win team lose four straight home games.

    I just want to be the lucky team ONE year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    After watching this post season....does it really matter?

    We had plenty enough talent to win it. We had bad luck. Nats had good luck. I watched a 107 win team lose four straight home games.

    I just want to be the lucky team ONE year.
    Unfortunately the state is cursed so just celebrate the ONE we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Strasburg has to opt out now right?
    Yes!!! And sets a new contract record for a pitcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonCowboy View Post
    My early guess is he stays
    My guess is he opts out AND stays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    My guess is he opts out AND stays.
    Similar to Kershaw last year, but Strasburg would have a ton of suitors if he tested the market.

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    Today: Eligible players officially file for major or minor-league free agency
    November 4: End of “quiet period” during which teams have exclusive negotiating rights with their free agents
    Deadline to issue qualifying offers ($17.8MM) to eligible free agents
    Deadline to exercise or decline options and opt-outs (unless sooner by operation of contract; Stephen Strasburg & Aroldis Chapman reportedly must decide by November 2)

    November 11-14: General Manager Meetings (Scottsdale, AZ)
    November 14: Deadline for qualifying offer recipients to accept or reject
    November 20: Deadline for adding Rule 5-draft eligible players to 40-man roster
    December 2: Non-tender deadline
    December 9-12: Winter Meetings (San Diego, CA)
    December 12: Rule 5 Draft
    January 10: Deadline to exchange arbitration filing figures if agreement has yet to be reached
    February 3-21: Arbitration hearing period
    Mid-February: Spring Training commences
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    Royals have hired Mike Matheny as manager
    Get off my lawn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    My guess is he opts out AND stays.
    Highly possible but they have to keep Try and keep Rendon too although I don’t envy whoever signs him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Strasburg has to opt out now right?
    Strasburg and Rendon leaving would be very good for the Braves going forward. Even the Nats keeping them for huge money would still be good news for the Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimeDog247 View Post
    Is Soto going to be better than Acuna? He plays the game the right way too.
    I doubt a future 1B/DH is going to be better than Acuna. But he's a damn good hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Yeah I don’t see AA going past 2 years for Donaldson. I’d explore a trade for a young cheap 3b and make Grandal my top priority the a COF. Anyway Escobar could be available from the DBacks?
    Not sure why Arizona would make Escobar available unless they were getting a pretty substantial overpay for the return.

    That said, they'd make an awfully interesting candidate for AA's first blockbuster if he could make it happen without backing up the truck. Riley plus ??? for Escobar ($7 million), Peralta (projected to make $8.8 million), and Robbie Ray (projected to make $10.8 million).

    Showing Julio the door and replacing him with Ray would be a wash salary-wise. Declining Markakis' option and replacing him with Peralta would add $10.8 million (when eating Markakis' buyout). Showing Duvall the door would cover picking up Flowers' option. Plugging Escobar in at 3B and signing Grandal to handle the majority of starts behind the plate (and to give Freeman semi-regular days off at 1B to keep him healthier at the end of the year) would add ~ $27 million. That would put salaries at roughly $132 million (and you'd still need to fill the last bench spot), but it would make for an awfully pretty hot stove roster...

    Acuna, Albies, Freeman, Escobar, Grandal, Peralta, Dansby, Ender

    Flowers, Camargo, Culberson, ???

    Soroka, Ray, Folty, Fried, Wilson/Wright/Anderson/Weigel/Davidson

    Melancon, Newcomb, Greene, Jackson, Dayton, Sobotka, Minter, Webb/Walker/Touki/Weigel/Davidson/Ynoa


    The problem would be the prospect cost - even if they could be convinced to move those three guys, it would take a whole lot more than Riley and filler prospects, not to mention that you wouldn't control Ray or Peralta beyond this season.
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    Where is the difference between Ray and Julio?

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    Yankees decline option on Encarnacion. Here is how the off-season could play out

    1) Braves sign Encarnacion for $15M to play first

    2) Braves trade Freeman and Swanson to Indians for Kluber and Lindor

    yeah or nay?
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    The Julio option will be most interesting one to me. While he was generally solid, he wasnt even used as a starter in the playoffs the last 2 years. That 11 million could go to other areas on the team, and the Braves do have some other options they can use.

    Flowers one is pretty much a lock, and Markakis i can still see get picked up, the issue is he needs to be platooned and Snit wont do that. If all the options get picked up, and most of the arb guys get whats projected, AA will barely have anything to spend this winter with the same holes that were there last winter (BP, SP, 3B cOF).

    He'd have to get extremely creative in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Strasburg and Rendon leaving would be very good for the Braves going forward. Even the Nats keeping them for huge money would still be good news for the Braves.
    I think they keep one, but not both, they have an in-house replacement with Kieboom for Rendon. Literally nothing for Strasburg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Yankees decline option on Encarnacion. Here is how the off-season could play out

    1) Braves sign Encarnacion for $15M to play first

    2) Braves trade Freeman and Swanson to Indians for Kluber and Lindor

    yeah or nay?
    LOL...

    Ideas centered around Kluber for Inciarte, or Lindor for Swanson plus prospects are crazy enough they just might be possible though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
    Royals have hired Mike Matheny as manager
    They are pretty clearly the dumbest organization in MLB now. Hopefully AA can find a way to take advantage of that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Yankees decline option on Encarnacion. Here is how the off-season could play out

    1) Braves sign Encarnacion for $15M to play first

    2) Braves trade Freeman and Swanson to Indians for Kluber and Lindor

    yeah or nay?
    How bout Freeman and Wilson for Betts. Then sign Grendal (2/55 3rd year club option 25 mil 10 mil buyout) Moustakas 3/65 4th year club option 22 mill 7 mil buyout and Kendrick 1/7 mil. Grendal plays most every day while Kendrick and Flowers split time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    They are pretty clearly the dumbest organization in MLB now. Hopefully AA can find a way to take advantage of that fact.
    Soto and/orn Merrifield remain good fits for Atlanta and not particularly good fits for Kansas City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    How bout Freeman and Wilson for Betts. Then sign Grendal (2/55 3rd year club option 25 mil 10 mil buyout) Moustakas 3/65 4th year club option 22 mill 7 mil buyout and Kendrick 1/7 mil. Grendal plays most every day while Kendrick and Flowers split time.
    Mous has just settled for back to back 1 year deals under $10M each, and you want to give him 3/65...$20M+ per year? Let's just say...hard pass.

    You've also constructed a 2020 payroll of about $160M+. Again, not likely.

    Oh, and it's Grandal.

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