I think an international ban for 1 year, plus extending our "penalty window" to an extra year or two after the ban. Losing 2017 J2 class. We don't lose any of our 2016 class or any from our previous draft classes. 3 million dollar fine. I could also see us getting banned from certain latin american countries for an extended period of time
We lose several signings from the current 2017 group, a second or third round pick. Plus restrictions/slot reductions for the next two signing periods.
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I think the Braves will get the penalty they would taken for exceeding the domestic draft bonus pool. So monetary fine of some amount plus first and possibly the second round pick.
I think there will be big restrictions in international market for probably an additional two years.
Last edited by Southcack77; 11-14-2017 at 10:58 AM.
I'm guessing they will reduce the overall signing pool amounts for both the draft and the international market. A hefty fine in addition to that. We didn't sign anyone of note this past July, so I don't know if vacating those signings would put much of a dent in the Braves' future (and MLB probably realizes that). MLB may try to use this episode as an opportunity to install an international draft as well, which would be a good thing.Originally Posted by Southcack77
I said it a week or so ago but: loss of 2017 J2, loss of 2018 1st Rd (#8), fined $5M
Ever since Coppy resigned I have been wondering if we would have made some big signings if MLB hadn't been snooping around. My guess is that they got a whiff of what was going on and put a stop to it.
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I would guess the penalty will be lower than what the Cardinals got for what they did to the Astros. They got a 2 million fine and forfeited picks 56 and 75 to the Astros. So my official guess is 500k fine, loss of a second or third round draft pick and some executives suspended for various amounts of time with Coppy getting a full year.
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I hate when people say we didn’t sign anyone of value just because we signed players for the minimum. Look at both Albies and Acuña. Both were signed for the minimum and would be considered players not worth anything based on the above logic. Imagine losing them now. Just because Maitan was signed for mega bucks doesn’t guarantee he’ll turn into anything at the mlb level.
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No one that was hyped was going to be signing within the Braves means.
They may well have signed players who end up being good though.
It seems a good number of them were probably just favors though.
Kinda need to find out exactly what the infractions are - since no one seems to know, it's pretty tough to guess what the penalties will be.
Really strange for this day and age, but MLB's done a pretty good job of keeping the details fairly quiet for once.
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Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Taking away players that are already signed is pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point.
Lose Cruz and Gutierrez as they were tied to the same agent as Dian Toscano. Fined a few million and maybe lose a 2nd Round draft pick.
Now there’s a shady situation , not sure that guy exists
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The shadiness of the international signing business is exactly why their either needs to be an integrated draft or an international draft. I am tired of all the shenanigans honestly.
I won't argue that it's unlikely to happen, but I'm hoping it doesn't.
If we lose players I will **** myself. I’m hoping it will just be future international signing penalties and a lump sum of cash.
What's interesting about Toscano is we traded him to the Dodgers with Bud Norris, so he was on their payroll. I wonder if anything came up due to that
If I were a player about to be signed then, I would be trying my best to get a crooked deal in place. Once signed, I would leak info in order to become a FA again
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MLB is definitely in danger of sliding down a slippery slope here exactly because of that.
The Red Sox lost players in this same scenario, and that type of thing hasn’t happened as a result. Or maybe it has...to the Braves right now.
MLB needs to fix this system once and for all.
I would guarantee that every team could get hit with a penalty for international signings. Every year over half the top 30 guys have these handshake deals in place and immediately sign the morning of J2 opening. Any player who thinks they could bang out a few more bucks by turning on their team could do so.
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