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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Neck was terrible last year and is a year older and Ender who knows. I see Acuna being our only reliable OF’er again next year. Personally Neck should be a bench bat and nothing else at this point bc he’s just not a starter at anymore. If they can resign JD then a cheaper option like Haniger needs to be brought in.
    If Neck is platooned he would be a positive player for the team. He just can't face any lefties right now.

    I'm still high on Ender. Injuries are a concern but a healthy Ender is still a ~3 WAR guy imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    LMAO:

    #WhiteSox’s offer to Wheeler was for MORE than the $118M he will receive from the #Phillies, sources tell The Athletic. As
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    Thought there was no such thing as a "home town discount" (something similar here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Thought there was no such thing as a "home town discount" (something similar here)
    Well it wasn't Wheeler's "hometown". But his wife I'm sure has a certain kind of "power" here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I expect the Phillies to sign Donaldson. They seem to be cannibalizing NL East teams with their stupid money.
    A part of me would die if this happens. All of my other favorite sports teams are letting or have let popular players go left and right recently so I’m sure it’ll happen. I don’t know how many parts of me would be left!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    He needs to produce roughly 12 WAR over the life of the contract to be worth it. I think that's totally doable considering his last couple of seasons, but the injury concerns with him make it a pretty big risk. Certainly a lot of money/years to guarantee to a guy that's never pitched more than 200 innings.

    I'll say it again, they should have went after Cole/Stras if they were willing to spend "stupid money."
    12 WAR will be far from easy IMO. repeating his last 2 years for another 3 is a big ask.
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    I like Wheeler but Hamels for 1 year was the SP i wanted the most, not to mention he can mentor Fried and teach him his wipeout CH. Can offer a QO at the end of the season and not be stuck with a potentially albatross contract. The Braves/Bumgarner rumors scared me as well.

    Current payroll is around 132 right now if arb projections are correct, and Braves still need a power bat to bring back JD or replace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I like Wheeler but Hamels for 1 year was the SP i wanted the most, not to mention he can mentor Fried and teach him his wipeout CH. Can offer a QO at the end of the season and not be stuck with a potentially albatross contract. The Braves/Bumgarner rumors scared me as well.

    Current payroll is around 132 right now if arb projections are correct, and Braves still need a power bat to bring back JD or replace him.
    i'm happy the Braves are staying away from contracts 5+ years long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Take it with a grain of salt:

    I think this was predicted as well.

    I am really interested in the gNats this year. Will they let both superstars walk this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    I think this was predicted as well.

    I am really interested in the gNats this year. Will they let both superstars walk this year.
    I think they have to keep Strasburg, they dont have anything in the farm to replace him and i'd be surprised if they were the high bidder on Cole. And the FA SP's are running thin now, with Hamels/Wheeler off the board today.

    They have Kieboom to replace Rendon and have been in the mix for JD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i'm happy the Braves are staying away from contracts 5+ years long.
    I'd do 5+ year FA deals, just not for pitchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Take it with a grain of salt:

    Angels have been rumored to get Cole all offseason, he's not signing anytime soon though. Rendon seems likely of the elite names to sign first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I think they have to keep Strasburg, they dont have anything in the farm to replace him and i'd be surprised if they were the high bidder on Cole. And the FA SP's are running thin now, with Hamels/Wheeler off the board today.

    They have Kieboom to replace Rendon and have been in the mix for JD.
    How does Kieboom replace Rendon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    How does Kieboom replace Rendon?
    well i'd assume he can play 3B.
    i don't think he's necessarily ready, tho. was rough in his debut last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    How does Kieboom replace Rendon?
    I'd guess they sign a FA bat to replace Rendon but Kieboom is in the pipeline. No one they get can actually replace Rendon. JD's probably the closest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    12 WAR will be far from easy IMO. repeating his last 2 years for another 3 is a big ask.
    Certainly not easy. But given his last 2 seasons, I think you could reasonably assume the next 4 years to look something like 4, 3.5, 2.5, 1.5, 1. That's 12.5 WAR. And I think the Fallies should be very happy if they get sort of production from him. But I wouldn't be optimistic given how quickly pitchers seem to decline in their 30's. Arrieta, for instance, has put up a total of 9 fWAR since turning 30. And his 28/29 seasons were considerably better than Wheeler's.
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    Well, before the Winter Meetings i dont think you could ask for a better start to the winter.

    Brought back O'Day, Martin, and added the best RP on the market.
    Signed Hamels.
    Brought back Nick and Flo.
    Signed the 2nd best C on the market to a good contract.

    Bullpen/SP/C all checked off. Pretty much only things left on AA's list is a power bat of some kind, and some depth pieces. I'd personally go after 2 bats but i dont know if AA does that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I'd guess they sign a FA bat to replace Rendon but Kieboom is in the pipeline. No one they get can actually replace Rendon. JD's probably the closest.
    That’s why if we are intent on signing JD that we do it before Rendon signs bc his market will go nuts then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    That’s why if we are intent on signing JD that we do it before Rendon signs bc his market will go nuts then.
    How about we just say f it and go all in and sign Rendon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    That’s why if we are intent on signing JD that we do it before Rendon signs bc his market will go nuts then.
    I dont think his market is nuts, re JD's. JD may be waiting for Rendon to sign, so he knows who missed out.

    JD's market is probably around 3/75 or if anyone gives him a 4th year, 4/100+.

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