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    WYFF in Greenville reporting that Ryan MIller (31st) will be returning to school.

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    BOOM! Drew Waters just tweeted he is officially a Brave as of 10 p.m. Monday. Screw the Marlins; this is a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    BOOM! Drew Waters just tweeted he is officially a Brave as of 10 p.m. Monday. Screw the Marlins; this is a good day.
    Right at slot?

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    Baseball America says Waters will sign for $1.5 million. Looks like slow value was $1.67 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Baseball America says Waters will sign for $1.5 million. Looks like slow value was $1.67 million.
    I thought we would have to go over slot to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I thought we would have to go over slot to get him.
    I did, too. So it looks like Wright could be our only overslot guy. The only one up in the air looks like Tarnok, and maybe the catcher in the 11th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I thought we would have to go over slot to get him.
    They offered him a hunting trip with Chipper so I'm sure that's what sealed the deal.

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    I'm curious to get everyone's opinion. With Vanderbilt being out of the College World Series it makes me wonder what would happen if they were still participating. The Braves could then not negotiate with Kyle Wright. Do you think the Braves would then start to negotiate with other players or wait till Wright signs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach_Chris View Post
    I'm curious to get everyone's opinion. With Vanderbilt being out of the College World Series it makes me wonder what would happen if they were still participating. The Braves could then not negotiate with Kyle Wright. Do you think the Braves would then start to negotiate with other players or wait till Wright signs?
    I think everyone knew Wright's number, which appears to be a 7 followed by six zeroes. When Wright became available, I think it was determined to be well below slot in rounds 4 through 10 to be able to scrape together enough for Wright. I'm curious as to what the approach would have been had Wright not been available. We may have seen the Beck/Beck 1st/2nd tandem or something like that where we would have gone below in the first and rolled that into the second and third rounds.

    I think what this shows about the baseball draft is that a team goes in--or should go in--with multiple strategies depending on how things play out.

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    Austin Bush (15th), who has "light tower power" and is a close friend of Cumberland, has tweeted he's on his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I think everyone knew Wright's number, which appears to be a 7 followed by six zeroes. When Wright became available, I think it was determined to be well below slot in rounds 4 through 10 to be able to scrape together enough for Wright. I'm curious as to what the approach would have been had Wright not been available. We may have seen the Beck/Beck 1st/2nd tandem or something like that where we would have gone below in the first and rolled that into the second and third rounds.

    I think what this shows about the baseball draft is that a team goes in--or should go in--with multiple strategies depending on how things play out.
    The one wrinkle I'm curious about is whether at some point the Braves told Wright they would give him 7M if he dropped to them and that became his asking price to other teams. If he had a preference for playing for the Braves, his asking price to the other teams might have been north of 7M.
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    I wondered that nsacpi. If Wright started dropping bc of his asking price to scare teams off so he'd fall to 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I wondered that nsacpi. If Wright started dropping bc of his asking price to scare teams off so he'd fall to 5.
    It seems that a couple of the teams picking ahead of the Braves had the opposite strategy. They had two or more players they ranked about the same and were willing to draft whichever one was willing to sign under slot. It was an interesting dynamic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The one wrinkle I'm curious about is whether at some point the Braves told Wright they would give him 7M if he dropped to them and that became his asking price to other teams. If he had a preference for playing for the Braves, his asking price to the other teams might have been north of 7M.
    It was obviously a deal worked out ahead of time to get him to drop. If the first 4 teams simply passed, there would be 0 reason to give him $7 million. Even if he demands that after being drafted, what leverage does he have? Is he going back to school? That was likely never on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It was obviously a deal worked out ahead of time to get him to drop. If the first 4 teams simply passed, there would be 0 reason to give him $7 million. Even if he demands that after being drafted, what leverage does he have? Is he going back to school? That was likely never on the table.
    sure seems that way...and if they had him rated significantly better than the other top guys it was smart of the FO to play it that way...maybe his growing up a Braves fan in Alabama helped in this situation

    i think the above scenario still needs a final ingredient...which is that the four teams picking ahead of us did not share our assessment that Wright was significantly better than the other guys taken in the top 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    sure seems that way...and if they had him rated significantly better than the other top guys it was smart of the FO to play it that way...maybe his growing up a Braves fan in Alabama helped in this situation

    i think the above scenario still needs a final ingredient...which is that the four teams picking ahead of us did not share our assessment that Wright was significantly better than the other guys taken in the top 5
    Oh, sure, it obviously hinged on the other teams being unwilling to pay the $7 million or whatever, especially the Twins. But it's still pretty clear the Braves agreed to pay him this before the draft began.

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    It seems plausible that everyone knew what his number was. We're hearing none of the top four will get this much, so it probably boils down to the Braves meeting his number. If not, he probably falls into the later rounds as unsignable and returns to Vandy for his senior year.

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    Really in a hurry to hear that Bacon, Zimmerman, and Rodgers have signed. Would pretty much guarantee that we got the three guys we targeted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    It seems plausible that everyone knew what his number was. We're hearing none of the top four will get this much, so it probably boils down to the Braves meeting his number. If not, he probably falls into the later rounds as unsignable and returns to Vandy for his senior year.
    I just don't see this as plausible. Essentially 0 college juniors who are projected anywhere near the 1st round ever go back to school, and we heard nothing about Wright being a tough sign before the draft. There would be very, very little to gain and a whole bunch to lose from Wright's perspective by making tough bonus demands. Probably as simple as Wright and the Braves talking and coming to an agreement if he told other teams he wanted to go to Atlanta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I just don't see this as plausible. Essentially 0 college juniors who are projected anywhere near the 1st round ever go back to school, and we heard nothing about Wright being a tough sign before the draft. There would be very, very little to gain and a whole bunch to lose from Wright's perspective by making tough bonus demands. Probably as simple as Wright and the Braves talking and coming to an agreement if he told other teams he wanted to go to Atlanta.
    i thought the Padres might do something like this with Hunter Greene
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