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    Braves already getting interest in their starters

    Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi · 13m
    On trade market: Braves already hearing from teams interested in their starting pitchers. Can move Floyd or Harang, with Wood in minors.

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    Many more buyers than sellers at the deadline this year. Should create a healthy market for Harang. I'd rather hold on to Floyd, but with the right offer would consider moving him instead.

    Price and Samardzija will highlight the available starting pitching at the deadline this year. But lots of teams should be looking to make a more modest/less expensive move.

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    Keeping Floyd should be the priority unless that offers for Harang are pointless. Floyd is a really good pitcher IMO.
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    Getting a bat would require the notion that management could get cut, bench, or send down one we have right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleBrave View Post
    Getting a bat would require the notion that management could get cut, bench, or send down one we have right now.
    Injuries happen. A trade could fill in where the injury happened.

    Also the Braves have let go of or benched the likes of Lowe and Uggla. So it ain't a far-fetched notion.

    The trade could also be for a prospect or relief pitcher. Wren recently indicated the pen was the area he wanted to improve.

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    I'd like our chances of Wren and his scouts identifying a relief pitcher in any trade.
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    In terms of timing, I wouldn't expect a move until after the June 28 double header against the Phillies. Wood is on track to start one of those games after making two more minor league starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The trade could also be for a prospect or relief pitcher. Wren recently indicated the pen was the area he wanted to improve.
    I'm thinking the incoming haul would be more along those lines.
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    Both Floyd and Harang are eligible for free agency at the end of the year. I say just go with the best overall offer if they are going to trade either of them.

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    If anyone would give us anything of value for Floyd, I'd go ahead an pull the trigger. Him and Harang will regress soon. Luckily, Minor and Santana will pick up the slack.
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    Less chance of regression with Floyd. If we make the playoffs, I'd give him serious consideration for a rotation spot. But for the right offer, I'd consider moving Floyd.

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    Another reason to trade Floyd is the cost savings. If I have to pick between Floyd plus a LHed BP arm vs Harang plus a LHed BP arm plus a bench piece, I trade Floyd without hesitation.

    If the team has the funds to add a LHed BP arm plus a bench piece without moving Floyd, then you have to consider that Floyd may be deserving of a QO after this season and would bring back a draft pick when he leaves as a FA.

    So many ifs....

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    The thing is though, and Wren has said it many times, that during the season you can acquire players for .25-.50 cents on a dollar, so if that is the case, and Wren has that mentality, we will be getting very little in return according to his philosophy. And most likely, if history is any indicator, Wren will be looking for a position of need and go with that deal, aka a reliever, even though we may get offered a better return in the form of prospects. Wren needs to go after the best deal possible, no matter what the position and further strengthen our depth and organizational flexibility going forward, as this is the mentality we should have to put a legit World Series contender from 2015-2017. If he plays his cards correctly we could be and should be set up for a excellent run in the next 3-5 years with the players that we got locked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Him and Harang will regress soon.
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    Less chance of regression with Floyd.
    A lot less of a chance. Not sure why giles has their regression likelihoods penned in the same sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    A lot less of a chance. Not sure why giles has their regression likelihoods penned in the same sentence.

    I wouldn't say a lot less. Harangue era is higher than his fip, but significantly lower than his xfip. Floyd's fip and xfip are significantly higher than his era. And Floyd is a career 4.5ish era guy. (Not much higher than Harang).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    I wouldn't say a lot less. Harangue era is higher than his fip, but significantly lower than his xfip. Floyd's fip and xfip are significantly higher than his era. And Floyd is a career 4.5ish era guy. (Not much higher than Harang).
    Harang has been pitching the NL (outside his failed attempt at pitching in the AL last year), Floyd has spent most of his career in AL. Plus Harang has had some years in pitchers parks (SD, LA) whereas Floyd has always pitched in hitters parks before this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    I wouldn't say a lot less. Harangue era is higher than his fip, but significantly lower than his xfip. Floyd's fip and xfip are significantly higher than his era. And Floyd is a career 4.5ish era guy. (Not much higher than Harang).
    Floyd is the better pitcher. That's what I meant when I said less chance of regression. Perhaps the more precise way to put it is that regression to norms would leave Floyd the better pitcher.

    Plus their is the old watching the game thing. To my eye, Floyd is the better pitcher. By a fair margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Floyd is the better pitcher. That's what I meant when I said less chance of regression. Perhaps the more precise way to put it is that regression to norms would leave Floyd the better pitcher.
    Agreed.

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